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My daughter ,who turned 18 a month ago just received a ticket for not having this stupid red sticker. She did not go to motor vehicle to update her license from probationary, but took the stickers off anyway. 100.00 pending fine and a day in court to be wasted , since this is a mandatory court appearance. Guess they do not make enough money at a hundred because now they will hammer us for cost of court. Thanks for lightening my wallet(Kayleigh's mom!) and you bums in trenton
She did not go to motor vehicle to update her license from probationary,
So she didn't do what was required but it's every one else's fault? What did she have to do that was so pressing? If she read the regulations, she would have known that turning 18 does not automatically change to a Basic DL.
So she apparently had done none of these requirements.
Get a basic driver license
You must be at least 18 years old
Complete the unsupervised driving period
Go to any MVC Agency with your provisional license and other documents to pass the 6 point ID requirements
Pay $24 license fee
A DL check would not have shown a Basic DL as none was ever issued. It would show a Permit status as driver's over 18 are still operating in that manner.
So she didn't do what was required but it's every one else's fault? What did she have to do that was so pressing? If she read the regulations, she would have known that turning 18 does not automatically change to a Basic DL.
So she apparently had done none of these requirements.
Get a basic driver license
You must be at least 18 years old
Complete the unsupervised driving period
Go to any MVC Agency with your provisional license and other documents to pass the 6 point ID requirements
Pay $24 license fee
A DL check would not have shown a Basic DL as none was ever issued. It would show a Permit status as driver's over 18 are still operating in that manner.
Jeez I just don't understand why everyone is a jerk to each other on this forum. Boiling down your post, the only thing standing between this girl and a basic license is an annoying wait in line at the DMV and a $24 fee.
The poster that you were responding to was complaining that this is a dumb system, and your reply only confirms that.
In my experience with people I know, Kyleigh's Law is barely enforced. Cops tend to enforce the passenger/time restrictions but often don't ticket for not having the decal.
So she didn't do what was required but it's every one else's fault? What did she have to do that was so pressing? If she read the regulations, she would have known that turning 18 does not automatically change to a Basic DL.
So she apparently had done none of these requirements.
Get a basic driver license
You must be at least 18 years old
Complete the unsupervised driving period
Go to any MVC Agency with your provisional license and other documents to pass the 6 point ID requirements
Pay $24 license fee
A DL check would not have shown a Basic DL as none was ever issued. It would show a Permit status as driver's over 18 are still operating in that manner.
This is another money grab. What is the reasoning to switch from provisional to basic license before the provisional license expires? Just to pay the $24 license fee a few years early and to spend all day in line? I carried my provisional license for all 4 years that it was valid and switched only when it expired. I've used it to rent cars, travel, etc. just like a regular license. In driver's ed, I was told, licenses issued to those under age 21 are vertical while those for over 21 are horizontal. That's the distinction that is more important for me to pay for, if I want to pay extra at all, since bartenders can just check my DOB on a vertical license as well.
What is the special benefit conferred by switching to non-provisional once your driving period passes? Can't the cops also do a subtraction from the date of issue on the provisional license to see that in fact, the provisional driving period has passed?
It's really hypocritical that Trenton rails against voting id laws citing that it's discriminatory because the cost of getting an ID is too much, but they think forcing teenagers to buy stickers and swap their licenses 3 times as often as necessary is not a financial burden....
This is another money grab. What is the reasoning to switch from provisional to basic license before the provisional license expires? Just to pay the $24 license fee a few years early and to spend all day in line? I carried my provisional license for all 4 years that it was valid and switched only when it expired. I've used it to rent cars, travel, etc. just like a regular license. In driver's ed, I was told, licenses issued to those under age 21 are vertical while those for over 21 are horizontal. That's the distinction that is more important for me to pay for, if I want to pay extra at all, since bartenders can just check my DOB on a vertical license as well.
What is the special benefit conferred by switching to non-provisional once your driving period passes? Can't the cops also do a subtraction from the date of issue on the provisional license to see that in fact, the provisional driving period has passed?
It's really hypocritical that Trenton rails against voting id laws citing that it's discriminatory because the cost of getting an ID is too much, but they think forcing teenagers to buy stickers and swap their licenses 3 times as often as necessary is not a financial burden....
I'm pretty sure this practice of getting a new license at 18 is common in many states.
You have driving restrictions until you turn 18, in many states, if not all. You can't drive with a certain number of people in your car, past a certain time, etc. At 18, you're now free from these restrictions so you need a license that shows that, but you're still not 21 so your license also needs to show that. Makes sense to me.
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