Harrell vs. Torres-Small (Las Cruces, Hobbs, Los Alamos: income, registered, counties)

[Zoidberg]

Originally Posted by observe

This state will continue to sink as it has been controlled by the democrats since 1931. It continually ranks at the bottom in several categories, and that won't change as it becomes a completely blue state......nobody else to blame now!

Thank you comrade! Your work here is done. Goodbye.

[NMTransplant]

Originally Posted by observe

This state will continue to sink as it has been controlled by the democrats since 1931. It continually ranks at the bottom in several categories, and that won't change as it becomes a completely blue state......nobody else to blame now!

You might want to check your facts first:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._of_New_Mexico

Not sure why you chose the date 1931 unless you are under the mistaken impression that Dillon was the last Republican governor. So not only have there been several Republican governors since that time (and what exactly did the last one achieve ???) but let's not forget all the Republican senators - Domenici held his senate post for 36 years so combined with the republican governors that held office during that time, how can anyone with a modicum of intelligence say that the state has been under democratic control since 1931??

[kpl1228]

Help me out here...what's the correct phonetic pronunciation of Torres-Small's first name?

[Cactus Hibs]

Originally Posted by kpl1228

Help me out here...what's the correct phonetic pronunciation of Torres-Small's first name?

So-CHEEL is pretty close to the way she pronounces it, which is more or less the traditional Mexican pronunciation.

[Poncho_NM]

It is pronounced So-Chee OR So-chill in spanish, In aztec it is pronounced Zoe-Chee-Tul. The name means flower in Aztec. The princess Xochitl was the daughter of the aztec emporior. (Allegedly)

More info at (actually interesting): https://www.behindthename.com/bb/fact/4347008

Subject: The Truth about the name Xochitl
Author: Xochitl Ratliff (guest)
Date: October 25, 2012 at 6:17:38 AM

[observe]

Originally Posted by NMTransplant

You might want to check your facts first:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._of_New_Mexico

Not sure why you chose the date 1931 unless you are under the mistaken impression that Dillon was the last Republican governor. So not only have there been several Republican governors since that time (and what exactly did the last one achieve ???) but let's not forget all the Republican senators - Domenici held his senate post for 36 years so combined with the republican governors that held office during that time, how can anyone with a modicum of intelligence say that the state has been under democratic control since 1931??

Maybe I should have clarified myself.
I was talking about the state legislature the House & Senate, which has been controlled by the democrats since 1931.
So a Republican Governor has a hard time getting things done.
No need for insults, unless you want to go there.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_Legislature

[Cactus Hibs]

Originally Posted by observe

Maybe I should have clarified myself.
I was talking about the state legislature the House & Senate, which has been controlled by the democrats since 1931.
So a Republican Governor has a hard time getting things done.
No need for insults, unless you want to go there.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_Legislature

Except for (from your own link):

1953-54 (GOP controlled House)
1979-82 (GOP-led coalition controlled House)
1985-86 (GOP controlled Senate, GOP-led coalition controlled House)
1987-88 (GOP-led coalition controlled Senate)
2001-02 (GOP-led coalition controlled Senate)
2009-12 (GOP-led coalition controlled Senate)
2015-16 (GOP controlled House)

Not quite as cut and dried as you claimed, which is what folks were trying to point out to you.

[observe]

Originally Posted by Cactus Hibs

Except for (from your own link):

1953-54 (GOP controlled House)
1979-82 (GOP-led coalition controlled House)
1985-86 (GOP controlled Senate, GOP-led coalition controlled House)
1987-88 (GOP-led coalition controlled Senate)
2001-02 (GOP-led coalition controlled Senate)
2009-12 (GOP-led coalition controlled Senate)
2015-16 (GOP controlled House)

Not quite as cut and dried as you claimed, which is what folks were trying to point out to you.

And you really think the coalition actually worked. The growth and prosperity of New Mexico is proof enough over the last 80 years. New Mexico has been left behind, do a side by side comparison of New Mexico and Arizona which were roughly the same in lots of ways in 1930.....then do the same now. but then again thats what people like around here.....right?

[Cactus Hibs]

Originally Posted by observe

And you really think the coalition actually worked. The growth and prosperity of New Mexico is proof enough over the last 80 years. New Mexico has been left behind, do a side by side comparison of New Mexico and Arizona which were roughly the same in lots of ways in 1930.....then do the same now. but then again thats what people like around here.....right?

I never argued it worked, just that your notion of Dem legislative control since 1930 is false. But keep qualifying what you actually said...

As for "growth and prosperity," NM is indeed poorer and more sparsely populated than Arizona (although beyond Phoenix and its suburbs the two states still look a whole lot alike).

That said, however:

Between 1930 and 1940 NM's population grew 25.6%.
Between 1940 and 1950 it grew 28.1%
Between 1950 and 1960 it grew 39.6%
Between 1960 and 1970 it grew 6.9%
Between 1970 and 1980 it grew 28.1%
Between 1980 and 1990 it grew 16.2%
Between 1990 and 2000 it grew 20.1%
and between 2000 and 2010 it grew 13.2%

In 1930 the state's total population was 423,317. In 2017 it's 2,088,070. That's enormous, explosive growth by any measure. Not as explosive as Arizona, true. But certainly not remotely what you'd call stagnation.

[Poncho_NM]

Originally Posted by Cactus Hibs

I never argued it worked, just that your notion of Dem legislative control since 1930 is false. But keep qualifying what you actually said...

As for "growth and prosperity," NM is indeed poorer and more sparsely populated than Arizona (although beyond Phoenix and its suburbs the two states still look a whole lot alike).

That said, however:

Between 1930 and 1940 NM's population grew 25.6%.
Between 1940 and 1950 it grew 28.1%
Between 1950 and 1960 it grew 39.6%
Between 1960 and 1970 it grew 6.9%
Between 1970 and 1980 it grew 28.1%
Between 1980 and 1990 it grew 16.2%
Between 1990 and 2000 it grew 20.1%
and between 2000 and 2010 it grew 13.2%

In 1930 the state's total population was 423,317. In 2017 it's 2,088,070. That's enormous, explosive growth by any measure. Not as explosive as Arizona, true. But certainly not remotely what you'd call stagnation.

Not really, and it makes no point, anyway... Your playing with numbers trying to make a point which really does not show the overall picture, and at times it's meaningless...

States with 2018 growth greater than New Mexico, there are a lot of them:


Rank State 2018 Population 2018 Growth % of US

36 New Mexico 2,090,708 0.13% 0.64%
5 Pennsylvania 12,823,989 0.14% 3.91%
35 Kansas 2,918,515 0.19% 0.89%
44 Rhode Island 1,061,712 0.20% 0.32%
28 Oklahoma 3,940,521 0.25% 1.20%
10 Michigan 9,991,177 0.29% 3.05%
24 Alabama 4,888,949 0.29% 1.49%
11 New Jersey 9,032,872 0.30% 2.75%
7 Ohio 11,694,664 0.31% 3.57%
18 Missouri 6,135,888 0.37% 1.87%
20 Wisconsin 5,818,049 0.39% 1.77%
26 Kentucky 4,472,265 0.41% 1.36%
42 Maine 1,341,582 0.42% 0.41%
19 Maryland 6,079,602 0.45% 1.85%
30 Iowa 3,160,553 0.47% 0.96%
17 Indiana 6,699,629 0.49% 2.04%
15 Massachusetts 6,895,917 0.53% 2.10%
33 Arkansas 3,020,327 0.53% 0.92%
41 New Hampshire 1,350,575 0.58% 0.41%
1 California 39,776,830 0.61% 12.13%
37 Nebraska 1,932,549 0.65% 0.59%
12 Virginia 8,525,660 0.66% 2.60%
22 Minnesota 5,628,162 0.92% 1.72%
46 South Dakota 877,790 0.93% 0.27%
45 Delaware 971,180 0.96% 0.30%
16 Tennessee 6,782,564 0.99% 2.07%
8 Georgia 10,545,138 1.11% 3.21%
43 Montana 1,062,330 1.13% 0.32%
9 North Carolina 10,390,149 1.14% 3.17%
23 South Carolina 5,088,916 1.28% 1.55%
27 Oregon 4,199,563 1.37% 1.28%
21 Colorado 5,684,203 1.37% 1.73%
49 District of Columbia 703,608 1.39% 0.21%
2 Texas 28,704,330 1.41% 8.75%
14 Arizona 7,123,898 1.53% 2.17%
3 Florida 21,312,211 1.56% 6.50%
13 Washington 7,530,552 1.69% 2.30%
31 Utah 3,159,345 1.85% 0.96%
32 Nevada 3,056,824 1.96% 0.93%
39 Idaho 1,753,860 2.15% 0.53%

http://worldpopulationreview.com/states/


The issue in this thread should be "Harrell vs. Torres-Small".