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Old 03-01-2009, 02:20 PM
 
Location: state of enlightenment
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Hey... New Mexico sounds like a pretty good place. I like it when a state has the guts to stand up to a noisy little special interest group.
Well I guess to the finger wagging, right wing, hate mongers and morality police civil rights is a special interest. How they miss the good old days of slavery.

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Old 03-03-2009, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Missouri Ozarks
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I'm a straight woman that has been living with my man for over 4 years.
I think marriage is a good thing but for me to get married again and lose an annuity and health insurance that I get from when my late husband was paying into survivor benefit plans would be stupid and mindless. I would lose it if I ever got remarried.
I do resent this because we are living as a 'married' couple without the piece of paper. We have the commitment toward each other and the religious fanatics come along and cause problems for people like us and for the gay/lesbians.
Why not let people live there lives the way they choose as long as no one is harming anyone else?
I don't think God/Goddess gives a rats ass how people live as long as they live decent lives.
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Old 03-03-2009, 08:44 AM
 
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Why not let people live there lives the way they choose as long as no one is harming anyone else?
I don't think God/Goddess gives a rats ass how people live as long as they live decent lives.
Very well said!
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Old 03-03-2009, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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The right for gays to marry was struck down in California back in November. As a native Californian, I was shocked! That reminded me that perhaps California residence are not as liberal as the rest of the US might think.

And to the original poster, "Da legislature" doesn't equal the people of New Mexico. Really, I don't care if you love or hate the place. I'm not fond of New Mexico myself so bash away at it if you must. I just think it's wrong for you to think striking down that bill means homophobia.

Some people are not homophobic, but they don't agree with gay couples having the same rights as straight couples. Some people don't care what rights gay couples have, and don't oppose gay marriages, as long as they don't have to see any gay couples with their own eyes.
and some of us are far from homophobic but draw the line at gay marriage. We have a foster daughter who is gay, guess what? She does not believe in gay marriage either..She certainly believes in domestic partnership but feels that actual marriage is a ceremony between a man and woman. She doesn't feel she needs that to be happy with her partner of 15 years.

Nita
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Old 03-03-2009, 12:08 PM
 
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and some of us are far from homophobic but draw the line at gay marriage. We have a foster daughter who is gay, guess what? She does not believe in gay marriage either..She certainly believes in domestic partnership but feels that actual marriage is a ceremony between a man and woman. She doesn't feel she needs that to be happy with her partner of 15 years.

Nita
If marriage is a "ceremony" between a man and a woman, should marriages even be recognized by the government? Maybe only domestic partnerships should be recognized, of which marriage would be a subset.
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Old 03-03-2009, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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If marriage is a "ceremony" between a man and a woman, should marriages even be recognized by the government? Maybe only domestic partnerships should be recognized, of which marriage would be a subset.
Can't answer that one as I have never given it much thought. The important thing is, anyone living in a relationship should have domestic equality when it comes to sharing. I think insurance should be available as well. It is the ceremony itself that seems to be the stumbling block..

Nita
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Old 03-03-2009, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Metromess
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and some of us are far from homophobic but draw the line at gay marriage. We have a foster daughter who is gay, guess what? She does not believe in gay marriage either..She certainly believes in domestic partnership but feels that actual marriage is a ceremony between a man and woman. She doesn't feel she needs that to be happy with her partner of 15 years.

Nita
So should her 'feelings' be what drives the law? Just let people do what they want as long as there is no harm done to anyone else. As songinthewind7's post shows, the laws surrounding marriage (and remarriage) are in need of revision.

Some gay couples do feel the need for marriage. Why shouldn't they be able to?

(This is all I'm going to say about it here, since it properly belongs in a different forum!)
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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So should her 'feelings' be what drives the law? Just let people do what they want as long as there is no harm done to anyone else. As songinthewind7's post shows, the laws surrounding marriage (and remarriage) are in need of revision.

Some gay couples do feel the need for marriage. Why shouldn't they be able to?

(This is all I'm going to say about it here, since it properly belongs in a different forum!)
Did I say her feelings drives the law, I stated what they were, simple as that.

Nita
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Metromess
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Okay. Sorry about that. I guess I'm simply surprised that a gay person wouldn't want it to be an option, whether she personally wants to do it or not.
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Old 03-04-2009, 08:43 AM
 
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and some of us are far from homophobic but draw the line at gay marriage. We have a foster daughter who is gay, guess what? She does not believe in gay marriage either..She certainly believes in domestic partnership but feels that actual marriage is a ceremony between a man and woman. She doesn't feel she needs that to be happy with her partner of 15 years.

Nita
If your foster daughter doesn't believe in marriage, then she shouldn't get married. That doesn't mean that she has the right to impose her belief on everyone else. Also, keep in mind that gay people are not looking for religious marriage ceremonies. Those 'sacred' ceremonies can be reserved for straight people, 50% of whom will eventually make a mockery out of it by divorcing or having extra marital affairs.
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