State "High School for the Arts???" (Las Cruces, Santa Fe: low income, home)
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Alright, well, I don't know exactly how the money will be divided or whether having this school will take away from others. I live in California and was educated in the LAUSD and we had magnet schools. That meant that you could go to a certain school that was out of your area if you specialized in that school's magnet. The high school I went to was a zoo magnet, for example, and the magnet kids spent the first half of the day at the zoo in honors classes like biology and anthropology.
We also had LA High School for the Arts and you had to audition or submit a portfolio for this. Magnet schools got more government money for their particular specialty and the kids all had to earn their way in there.
I guess I made a mistake in pointing someone like Picasso. He was world famous and was part of a well to do family. Keep in mind, though, that for every Picasso or Michelangelo or Da Vinci there are a hundred unknown artists who became successful by being good at taking instruction.
Keep in mind, though, that for every Picasso or Michelangelo or Da Vinci there are a hundred unknown artists who became successful by being good at taking instruction.
Unknown = unsuccessful. Not true for everything, but definitely true for art.
Unknown = unsuccessful. Not true for everything, but definitely true for art.
Not really. There are literally thousands of people who consider themselves successful artists in their fields. Not "fine artists" perhaps, but in many fields where a background or training in some branch of the arts is required/demanded.
For example: Today there are many working in computer-generated design fields - from designing web pages for people to working for computer animation companies. All of these are art-trained in one way or another.
Museum curators, art historians, gallery owners, professors of art, choreographers, playwrights, set designers, orchestra members and directors, advertising creators, etc etc. all have need to be educated in the arts.
jaxart: You are quite right. Lots of musicians do quite well without being famous. The "Wrecking Crew" in L.A. played on countless groups' recordings in the 60s-70s and never became well known except among other musicians.
Not really. There are literally thousands of people who consider themselves successful artists in their fields. Not "fine artists" perhaps, but in many fields where a background or training in some branch of the arts is required/demanded.
For example: Today there are many working in computer-generated design fields - from designing web pages for people to working for computer animation companies. All of these are art-trained in one way or another.
Museum curators, art historians, gallery owners, professors of art, choreographers, playwrights, set designers, orchestra members and directors, advertising creators, etc etc. all have need to be educated in the arts.
Thank you. One of the best artists that I went to high school with works with an advertisement firm. Nobody knows his name outside of his field. Two other guys I went to school with are now directors of animation and one of them is a car designer. All traditionally schooled.
I've also known singers and musicians who make a living doing studio recordings and only occasionally perform in local clubs, and actors who make a living doing voice overs and have rarely appeared on camera.
The crux of the problem is the statement made earlier that:
"Unknown = unsuccessful. Not true for everything, but definitely true for art."
I think what the writer meant was that "Unknown = Unfamous," which of course goes without saying.
Comparing SUCCESSFUL to FAMOUS is like apples and oranges. A very talented few ever become "famous" in any given field - whether the arts or medical science, etc.
In the case of the visual arts, formal education has very little if anything to do with the creation of famous names. I'd have to guess that a large dose of luck often distinguishes famous from unknown. Today it's all about how well someone is marketed. Some very questionable talents have had their "15 minutes of fame" due to their excellent marketing hype.
The reason I began this thread was to generate opinions on the need for a "special high school" dedicated to teaching the arts. This is an especially intriguing question (IMO) in our present NM climate with budget cuts in every sector of government, the College of Santa Fe (an art venue) falling on hard times, other art venues in Santa Fe failing financially, the ongoing lack of art classes available to many K12 students, etc.
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