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Old 10-01-2021, 09:17 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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I’m sorry but she obviously didn’t do her research. She also tagged the Bronx in one of her videos. Are we really going to all discredit ALL lotteries because of this one building and others that have ALWAYS stated that a percentage go to the homeless or people with some type of disability?? It’s obvious she didn’t win a lottery in an amazing neighborhood, so do we really expect much from those types of lotteries now?. Now if she was a 130AMI lottery winner then I would be concerned. I’ve been applying to lotteries for 6 year and I never apply to the ones in the Bronx, Harlem or the sketchy parts of Brooklyn and Queens for that same reason.

This is true. Especially to lotteries in those areas and having CB preference. You know that you'll definitely get sketchy people living in the building.

I also check for a ratio of very affordable (60%) to market rate (165%) and above. The less affordable apartments are in the building, the better a person's chances are not having these types of problems. It's unfortunate but true.
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Old 10-01-2021, 01:59 PM
 
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This is true. Especially to lotteries in those areas and having CB preference. You know that you'll definitely get sketchy people living in the building.

I also check for a ratio of very affordable (60%) to market rate (165%) and above. The less affordable apartments are in the building, the better a person's chances are not having these types of problems. It's unfortunate but true.
You’re right the very low income lotteries attract low class people especially the ones from
Homeless shelters and the projects
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Old 10-01-2021, 07:57 PM
 
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You’re right the very low income lotteries attract low class people especially the ones from
Homeless shelters and the projects
YUP! You and Stormgal hit the nail right on head. The lower the AMIs unfortunately means lower class people and if the building is not in a good neighborhood or at least an up and coming neighborhood then the luxury aspect will almost 100% be going out the window. This is nothing new. That person honestly just sounded inexperienced, she probably won a lottery somewhere in the middle of the Bronx and was expecting an upper Eastside type of luxury building because those are the ones mentioned every time lotteries are talked about.
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Old 10-02-2021, 12:12 PM
 
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You guys know that people (allegedly) in market-rate units talk the exact same **** about people in ANY of the affordable AMI bands, right?
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Old 10-02-2021, 12:44 PM
 
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You guys know that people (allegedly) in market-rate units talk the exact same **** about people in ANY of the affordable AMI bands, right?
A crappy neighbor can fall under any AMI and even end up in a market rate apartment, but that's irrelevant to the topic here. We're discussing how this one person missed what kind of lottery she actually won and expected something completely different.

The building I live in has two AMIs 80% and 130% and I've found it almost impossible to distinguish which tenants are from the lottery and which are market rate. There's one family on my floor I suspect that they are also a lottery tenant and another I know for certain and only because they have a disability so it's obvious. I've interacted with both and both are pleasant. I've been here 6 months and it's been nothing like that tiktoker described. I also interact with all the tenants in my building and everyone including the fulltime super, resident manager, and maintenance are absolutely wonderful, if any of the tenants here suspect or know that I'm a lottery tenant they haven't treated me differently because of it.
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Old 10-03-2021, 11:27 AM
 
Location: queens new york
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withdrawn my application
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Old 10-03-2021, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Staten Island
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For over ten years now BdeB changed things so any lottery apartments that aren't rented can (and are mandated) to be turned over to city for renting to homeless. City kicks in more subsidies to cover rent these people obviously cannot pay.


Thus in theory any building with unclaimed lottery units can have homeless, transitional or whatever households placed.

https://nypost.com/2020/02/04/homele...r-nyc-program/


I know market rate households that have moved out of lottery buildings because of this madness. For lottery apartment households things are what they are. Unless win another lottery apartment in another building, and or otherwise can move house on their own, they're stuck living in a cross between projects and a shelter.

Which couldn't make deBlasio happier. The whole point of putting the homeless and section-8 people into these taxpayer-subsidized buildings is drive the market-rate tenants out of them. Looks like it's working.
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Old 10-03-2021, 04:29 PM
 
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Amazing how everyone psychically knows their neighbors' incomes and situations.
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Old 10-03-2021, 05:37 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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You guys know that people (allegedly) in market-rate units talk the exact same **** about people in ANY of the affordable AMI bands, right?
Well personally, I’m not trying to compete with Jeff Bezos and I really don’t care what he or others like him think about me moving into his building. It’s a lottery - same as winning the mega millions. Some people win and others don’t.

We just think that based on experience, the 60% ami group is not the same as 130 or 165 ami. The quality of people are actually very different for whatever reasons unbeknownst to me. Compare NYCHA with hunters point south living - the latter of which is 130% ami or higher. Hunters Point is very high end and the property is well taken care of while NYCHA is not.
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Old 10-05-2021, 11:04 AM
 
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YUP! You and Stormgal hit the nail right on head. The lower the AMIs unfortunately means lower class people and if the building is not in a good neighborhood or at least an up and coming neighborhood then the luxury aspect will almost 100% be going out the window. This is nothing new. That person honestly just sounded inexperienced, she probably won a lottery somewhere in the middle of the Bronx and was expecting an upper Eastside type of luxury building because those are the ones mentioned every time lotteries are talked about.
It's hilarious that people think that lower income means lower class/ Some of the most classless people I've met in life are those that make gobs and gobs of money. Disgustingness transcends income and neighborhood.
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