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Old 02-09-2011, 06:10 AM
 
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Wouldn't you agree that 2.3% is low to almost nil? The almost 20% is the more significant number. A black person could likely track that white ancestor. At 3% that African ancestor is untraceable.

Yes it is, but it proves my point that many whites have it. so would call those whites afro american? of course not, (bringing us back to my point earlier) just like most tri-racial latinos (ex. Hugo Chavez) are not afro latinos, but just a tri-racial.

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Old 02-09-2011, 11:46 AM
 
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they have states (they call them department) that are like 70-75% black. they got that is 90% black. there is nothing like that in america. back in the day many southern states were mostly black but not since the great migration.
colombia has the largest afro-hispanic population and 3rd largest black population in the americas after brazil and the usa.


Yeah, but Colombia also has the second highest Mestizo population of any hispanic country making up over 50% of Colombia's population, and not too mention a pretty large white minority too.
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Old 02-11-2011, 07:22 PM
 
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Can someone help me out with this one? I've noticed a group of Spanish speaking blacks in the city. They look like typical AA but unlike Dominican they seem to be proud of their black identity. I saw a group of men and women waiting for the train. One gentleman was wearing a jacket that had black heritage all over it. I first thought they were AA but as I walked closer to them their conversation was in Spanish. Does anyone know which country these people might have originated?
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Old 02-11-2011, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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Can someone help me out with this one? I've noticed a group of Spanish speaking blacks in the city. They look like typical AA but unlike Dominican they seem to be proud of their black identity. I saw a group of men and women waiting for the train. One gentleman was wearing a jacket that had black heritage all over it. I first thought they were AA but as I walked closer to them their conversation was in Spanish. Does anyone know which country these people might have originated?
Possibly Honduras.
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Old 02-12-2011, 04:06 AM
 
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Possibly Honduras.
After reading andirondackguy's postings, I assume black Hondurans were rare or not really even part of the population. Are you sure they are Hondurans. I was thinking they might be a new trend of Cubans.
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Old 02-12-2011, 10:26 AM
 
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After reading andirondackguy's postings, I assume black Hondurans were rare or not really even part of the population. Are you sure they are Hondurans. I was thinking they might be a new trend of Cubans.

They could be Dominicans.
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Old 02-12-2011, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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They could be Dominicans.
Pretty funny how 1nevets automatically disqualified Dominicans because "they were too proud of being black".
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Old 02-12-2011, 10:52 AM
 
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Pretty funny how 1nevets automatically disqualified Dominicans because "they were too proud of being black".

Yeah they would seem to be the most obvious choice.
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Old 02-12-2011, 05:18 PM
 
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That 30% are blacks in the US that have white ancestry. This is true, 1 out of every 3 blacks in the US has some white ancestry. Whites Americans who have black ancestry is no way near that unless you include those of hispanic heritage who claim to be white. My girlfriend's family considers themselves white Hispanics.
About 10-20% of white Americans have at least one African ancestor. There was quite a bit of mixing in the early days of the country in particular in colonial Virginia. Of course there are the French/Spain rooted state of Louisiana where interracial relations had little social stigma.

The Hemming of Thomas Jefferson fame were described as essentially white by visitors. Which would mae sense since Sally Hemmings was 1/4 black her children an 1/8 Black. Many of them "passed" into the white community to have children with unsuspecting white partners.

If you scroll down on this link you'll come across a story from the NY Times about a Louisiana white woman who sued to the state to be reclassified as white. She was listed as black on records. She lost and the Supreme Court refused to hear the case. The state got rid of its rule anyway which was anyone 1/32 Black was considered Black.

The Study of Racialism • View topic - SUSIE GUILLORY PHIPPS CASE

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A Louisiana woman who the state contends is black has gone to court to have herself declared white, and that is but the short of it.

The story, a story as old as the country, has elements of anthropology and sociology special to this region, and its message, here in 1982 America, is that it is still far better to be white than black. Some New Orleans blacks are cheering the woman on.

Her name is Susie Guillory Phipps. She is a 48-year-old, blackhaired woman with big dark eyes, and she says she was flabbergasted and sickened to learn when she applied for a birth certificate five years ago that the state's Bureau of Vital Statistics had her down as ''colored.''

''I'm not light,'' she said, pointing to her face. ''I'm white.'' Traced Back 222 Years

So say thousands of Louisianians with Negroes in their ancestry, while thousands of others, blue-eyed and light as day, consider themselves black. In Mrs. Phipps's case, the state has traced her geneology back 222 years, to a black slave named Margarita, Mrs. Phipps's great-great-great-great grandmother.
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Old 02-13-2011, 12:09 AM
 
Location: North shore, Long Island
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Pretty funny how 1nevets automatically disqualified Dominicans because "they were too proud of being black".
I've read it on this board, from my personal observation and even from you. Dominicans do not see themselves as black. At the most they will accept having some black ancestry but that's about it.

Even my gf family who has siblings who look black to me consider themselves white Hispanics. I'm not going to rehash Dominicans views of being black but it's clear they have a very different view of the issue.

Anyway, I think I have my answer. I was told they were most likely Panamanians.
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