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Informing the consumer about the high calorie sodas by preventing them from purchasing a large quantity in one serving is Bloomberg's strategy to combat obesiety.
Whether a government imposed limitation of soda size is reducing population obesity is IRRELEVANT because the goal is to INFORM the consumer as a byproduct of banning anything larger than 16 ounces. He is hoping by informing the consumer they will make healthier choices down the road.
If the intent is to inform people, then inform people. Labels, PR, TV, signage, nutrition education in schools, whatever. I am all for it. Yet, this Govt is a big offender by offering unhealthy snacks in schools.
When you actually ban stores from selling certain size containers -- that is no longer information. That is a mandate, good or bad, but it is what it is -- a Govt mandate -- that store can't sell that size, and I can't buy that size, if I wanted to.
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Originally Posted by cee4
The "wimp" you seem to dislike is a billionare and can do what he pleases. You on the other hand want to preach that this is an infringement on our rights even though it is not.
Billionaire or not -- I could care less. He is our mayor, and no he can't do what he pleases. It should be my right to purchase soda in large containers if I wanted to. Regulating soda sizes to certain ounces -- c'mon, that is too far for the Govt to reach. You and others can't even prove that such Govt mandate would reduce obesity. Again you're clipping the nails of a dying patent, in delusion that it'll save his life!!!!
Soda ban only effects establishments regulated by the city of new york. 7/11 is state regulated and therefore you can buy big gulps.
Soda ban is not really a ban but a way to force establishments into providing a 16 oz serving size to customers. Customers can order as many of these as they please. This is beneficial for those who attend places like subway where the smallest size is like 21 oz. Now there will be a smaller option.
Being inconvenienced =/= infringing on your right. You can buy as many as please. Just because its an inconvenience to buy a certain amount of soda does not mean you have lost to right to purchase said soda.
Overall it provides a way of educating the public on how much they are consuming. Someone who buys a large soda tends to finish it in one serving or would rather finish then throwing away the beverage.
I think the real sheep is the person drinking a 44 oz coca-cola and believing its actually a healthy choice. I hope they have lots of diabetes centers in Texas. Also you should try to get the real information and facts before regurgitating whatever you saw on television/fox sheepie.
If the intent is to inform people, then inform people. Labels, PR, TV, signage, nutrition education in schools, whatever. I am all for it. Yet, this Govt is a big offender by offering unhealthy snacks in schools.
When you actually ban stores from selling certain size containers -- that is no longer information. That is a mandate, good or bad, but it is what it is -- a Govt mandate -- that store can't sell that size, and I can't buy that size, if I wanted to.
Billionaire or not -- I could care less. He is our mayor, and no he can't do what he pleases. It should be my right to purchase soda in large containers if I wanted to. Regulating soda sizes to certain ounces -- c'mon, that is too far for the Govt to reach. You and others can't even prove that such Govt mandate would reduce obesity. Again you're clipping the nails of a dying patent, in delusion that it'll save his life!!!!
Except its much more effective by being direct and he was able to skip the legislative process by going through the NYC health board. The NYC health board can mandate restrictions for city regulated businesses if they believe it is a public health risk.
It is also less expensive to place the burden on businesses that thrive off of selling garbage to the public then spending tax payer money solely on ad campaigns.
Do you see how easy it is to pick off your arguments? You have no foundation and therefore everything you say is just nonsense.
The last part makes no sense to me. If someone does not have the option of buying a smaller soda and is forced to buy a larger one then they will consume that size. Educating the public should not be considered nonsense just because you don't see it yourself. Oh how far have we fallen.
Obviously you didn't comprehend my point at all, which was that: (1) most people know it's unhealthy, they will buy it anyway and (2) calorie counts were also posted to combat morbid obesity and nearly every study shows that they have little to no impact on changing eating habits. Telling someone that they simply cannot have something or saying "here it is" is not "educating" the public.
If you want to combat morbid obesity, you need to provide ACTUAL education, and that is something I agree with personally, as someone involved in the health care field.
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