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Old 09-03-2013, 09:31 PM
 
Location: NYC
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There are still many parts of SI undeveloped. People in general avoid SI even rich folks rather be near Long island than be in SI.

The traffic in/out of SI can be ridiculous during normal times. And nobody really wants to live on old dump sites where deadly toxins are still in the ground.
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Old 09-03-2013, 09:47 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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it was built much later for one thing, and the demand was lower and it had poor transport connections to the rest of the city. check the map on page 4:

http://www.rpa.org/pdf/RPA_tomorrows_transit.pdf

which shows what was developed as of 1930
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Old 09-03-2013, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NYC
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Simple. No subway connection to Manhattan. Density and availability of public transit are generally directly related.
Even so Brooklyn was still dense with it's own transit system before annexation so that's not really an excuse. Especially since we've been a city for over 100 years now lol. Staten Island shouldn't be so far behind everything else in the city. Clearly Manhattan and Brooklyn had a head start (and are the #1 and #2 densest counties in America) but even so the Bronx and some parts of Queens are extremely denser than anywhere else in the country. Staten Island is like the oddball of boroughs.

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Distance.
I think it boils down to this really. S.I seems so far and disconnected with the rest of the city. Sometimes it feels like the little brother you have to drag along with you to the park. Probably not a good analogy but you guys know what I mean.
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Old 09-05-2013, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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It's such a shame that they don't allow cars on it anymore
The shame is that they didn't pick up cars at both ends and them dump them into the harbor.
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Old 09-05-2013, 07:12 AM
 
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^Ha.
Staten Island suffers from the lack of any kind of visionary planning and from being ignored by politicos for decades. It's what happens when you don't invest in public transportation and let tasteless post-war developers build what they like with no oversight. It's also unfortunate that Staten Island developed at a time when this country forgot how to build good urban neighborhoods.

At least the few historic areas are nice and the north shore has some real potential
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Old 09-05-2013, 08:10 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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This discussion will continue to appear from time to time unless more people realize that not everyone wants to live like them. If Staten Island was built up to the level of Brooklyn or even parts of Queens, many of us who grew up here would leave. Staten Island is the way it is because its residents want it that way. I'd prefer much less density, the way it was 30 years ago when I was growing up before the 2nd round of massive building started. Those of us who want to be stacked on top of each other have 4 other boros to enjoy.
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:34 AM
 
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I think the city's need a lot of options of different places to live, not all of them completely urban. A lot of parts of Queens are quite suburban too. If you think about the overall population here per square footage, it's outstanding. I think Staten Island is the city's option of living a quieter life while still being part of the city.
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:57 AM
 
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This discussion will continue to appear from time to time unless more people realize that not everyone wants to live like them. If Staten Island was built up to the level of Brooklyn or even parts of Queens, many of us who grew up here would leave. Staten Island is the way it is because its residents want it that way. I'd prefer much less density, the way it was 30 years ago when I was growing up before the 2nd round of massive building started. Those of us who want to be stacked on top of each other have 4 other boros to enjoy.
You mean you dont want to live in a studio apartment for $4,000 a month smelling some foul ethnic food from your neighbors while hearing some ghetto music coming from the streets and stepping on roaches in the middle of the night.

Damn..what is wrong with you???
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Old 09-05-2013, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Seoul
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You mean you dont want to live in a studio apartment for $4,000 a month smelling some foul ethnic food from your neighbors while hearing some ghetto music coming from the streets and stepping on roaches in the middle of the night.

Damn..what is wrong with you???
Nice strawman
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Old 09-05-2013, 02:04 PM
 
Location: USA
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it's the southern tip of ny state that happens to be a borough of nyc.
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