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But that's not "Jewish privilege", it's a normal reaction because of reputation. The reason people find it
more difficult to fathom because statistically your average Jewish are in fact less likely to commit street
crimes like assault and robbery. On the other hand, the Shomrims also have an reputation of overzealous behavior with "outsiders" in their neighborhoods.
Actually it's the Shmira who are the extremists, but the Shomrim usually get the blame because they work in the open and are seen.
And now we're down to one attacker with unknown ethnicity
"The 90 precinct's report indicates that the witnesses said there was one assailant; and it states that the suspect's sex was "unknown"; the skin tone, complexion, eye color, date of birth and hair style are also "unknown." A section that asks whether the suspect abuses drugs or alcohol is marked "no"; and, a section asking whether the suspect threatened/attempted suicide is marked "yes""
You think the report is also accurate, if it states that the unidentified & non-apprehended suspect threatened or attempted to commit suicide?
"the police report says there was a camera across from the location of the attack."
It will be most helpful, if there actually is some usable video. Often, such videos lack focus and are grainy. Occasionally, they can be enhanced, but not always.
Well, not really. It says the police are searching for one suspect but that the victim states that it was a group that attacked him. These days I don't find the NYPD any more believable than unknown victims. Could be a group or it could be one attacker.
In the section of this article that says the police report indicates "the witnesses said there was one assailant," it also says the suspect threatened/attempted suicide. Huh? The suspect attempted suicide? That makes me question the validity of the entire police report. I don't think the police were really paying attention when they took down the details from the victim.
I myself have been harassed by this "watchgroup" late late on a Saturday night well over a decade ago when I lived in Williamsburg. They practically chased me down and started chastising me for how I was dressed (a short skirt). It was kind of scary actually.
They did not yell at me in Yiddish either. It was English. This was around 2000 when the area was still in the early stages of gentrification.
Do you really wonder why? People have been hating Jews for more than 2,014 years.
Regardless of how long they've been hated it doesn't justify holding them in higher regard than anyone else.
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Lets see it's after 4am on a Sunday Morning and its in the low 30's outside. Even at this point no Hasid is going to be out since the Sabbath ended the evening before and basically 10pm is their bedtime. Since Hasids don't mix with any other groups how would they even know if he was gay. And another thing especially to Hasids, if they yelled anything it would have been in Yiddish. So what's more odd is that is none of the interviews does this person mention hearing a language he did not understand.
Obviously, your point about them speaking only Yiddish is invalid.
Secondly, I'm not sure of their cultural practices, but I'm certain of one thing: if there's a rule, there is at least one person breaking it. From my understanding the articles hint towards the attackers being apart of the shomrim, making it plausible that they were out after their "bedtime"...to "protect their neighborhood".
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Actually it's the Shmira who are the extremists, but the Shomrim usually get the blame because they work in the open and are seen.
Ok, so according to the articles you posted it is not a stretch to believe a group of extremist hasidic jews were the perpetrators and pose a flight risk because they feel being held accountable for their predatory behavior is considered making an example out of them and the whole Jewish community, correct?
All I'm saying is that we all need to accept there's a strong possibility it was jews and hold them just as accountable if this were black on white, straight on gay, Muslim on Christian crime and stop making excuses.
Now if this group attacked the same people two played the knockout game, I'd quietly turn my head the other way. A group attacked a drunken person walking alone, that's not ok.
His attorney really had the gumption to think saying his client would fear for his life in prison was worth even repeating? I'm sure all the rapists, murderers, child abusers, and others that have committed hate crimes feel the same way; at least he can use those same skills he did on that boy while incarcerated to protect his life.
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And now we're down to one attacker with unknown ethnicity:
Regardless of how long they've been hated it doesn't justify holding them in higher regard than anyone else.
Do you really think Jews are held with a higher regard than anyone else? Most places on this world or even this country do not have Jews. But even with their small numbers, they still probably have fewer felony assaults in proportion to their population. So should we assume that they are just as likely to commit a street crime in NYC than other types of people?
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