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It's spring and summer is around the corner. As weather improves, people will want to spend more time out than in other seasons. Some residents of my apartment complex gather in the front steps of buildings for hours, including overnight hours.
It's certainly a sense of community if you have the good people hanging out enjoying themselves, but most of them aren't so good intentioned. They leave their food wrappers, cigarette butts/packs, beer cans, and bottles all over.
* Is it considered loitering despite that they're residents?
* What can be done to stop it?
* Does the city anti-loitering ordinance can be enforced in this case?
More and more people come pouring into this bursting at the seams, over-priced rat trap every month. They keep coming and coming, from every socioeconomic background. That is how it is, my friend. People claim that the diversity of this wonderful city is one of the things that they love. But get annoyed that everybody is not proper and respectful. That is not going to happen squeezing...what is it now...9 million neurotic maniacs into such small areas.
It's only going to get worse as time goes on, until the city decides it can't hold this many bodies anymore and implodes on itself.
Last edited by availableusername; 05-26-2014 at 11:24 PM..
Persons have been sitting on stoops (steps) and or in front of their buildings in urban areas for years. Boston, New York City, Chicago, etc... anywhere you have high density housing in city surroundings.
Watch any movie made in or supposedly showing "old" NYC and you'll see persons white, black, yellow, Italian, Irish, African-American etc.. again all sitting on steps or whatever.
Some buildings did then and do now have "no loitering" signs posted in front or inside the lobby door, but that often applied to tradesmen, strangers, and or persons who otherwise did not live in the building or have a right to be on the premises.
Equally historic persons like yourself have had a beef with people sitting on the front steps. Cue the old lady with curlers in her hair and wearing a housedress yelling out of her window " get off those steps.... don't you have any place to go...?" or some such.....
Yeah, it isn't loitering unless it's on public grounds.
What about people sitting all day in the front lobby of an apt. building that is not set up as a sitting area? Also is it considered loitering if the building's own residents sit outside in front of the building in which they live?
This is something that will never end. There are some clean blocks in many neighborhoods and apartment buildings where the residents have some class and respect their building. Those blocks and buildings are very few unfortunately. I hate these people with a passion personally, but you have to deal with it or get out. I just see no other way of handling it. I have never had any friends or family members who did this, who would sit in front of the building on the steps. Then again none of my family or friends are thugs, low-lifes or dirty people. And yes, I look lowly upon the people who do this. I wish I can wipe them off the steps, but you can't son.
"In 2012, the city settled the suit Wise had started on behalf of panhandlers arrested long after the state’s loitering laws were ruled unconstitutional.
On the stoop topic. A great deal of people sitting on a stoop are selling cracks, dimes of sour or bundles of heroin. If not that then they are steering or working for someone.
I live in an apartment and the only time it bothers me is when i need to take my dogs out. The people wont move over.
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