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No one is talking about real estate management and landlords. We are talking about NYCHA. Which from my knowledge has not employed a rigorous surveillance system. Crimes from these places are pretty much solved on the witness basis. Low budget bodegas have a better surveillance system then these large structures; and that's the issue the OP is trying to raise.
I'm not arguing the point, I agree with the OP. I'm trying to say there's a precedent for security cameras and that many of these cameras are found in higher income buildings.
Why are new york tax payers supporting these large structures which incubate drugs dealers, addicts, rapist, and now recently child murdereres. De Blasio needs to put in more cameras and police presence to control these buildings of high crime. This is not Rio (favelas) this is New York.
The city has allowed the cost of living to balloon over the past 10-15 year so much that the middle class left. Or what stayed behind are extremely few. The rest moved elsewhere leaving the extremely wealthy and the poverty-stricken in NYC who have a third-world mentality. The working class has to live in the midst of the lower poverty stricken class mixed in with the mentally-ill and criminally minded. NYC has finally managed to turn an American city into the newest third-world country.
Why are new york tax payers supporting these large structures which incubate drugs dealers, addicts, rapist, and now recently child murdereres. De Blasio needs to put in more cameras and police presence to control these buildings of high crime. This is not Rio (favelas) this is New York.
Cameras and police presence are very much needed, but it wouldn't change the systemic problem with nycha as a whole.
The favelas are worst than anything you've seen from the projects. There is no need to compare the projects with what I think would make the Van Dyke Houses look like the Trump Towers.
No, many New York Housing "projects" just like those in New Jersey or elsewhere were not always crime and vermin infested warehouses of the poor and so forth. Indeed most were full of solid working class and or middle class residents. Quite a few were built to and or otherwise housed WWII veterans and their families. These were the units built to address the post war housing shortages.
Speaking for Staten Island you had places like Todt Hill, South Beach and even West Brighton houses that had nurses, NYPD, NYFD, USPS, other state or NYC government workers along with again other solid families. However there were always a few bad places such as Jersey Street and Park Hill, but even back in the day those places were no where near as bad as they are now.
Some projects were built as part of "urban renewal" and basically moved poor blacks and latino/Hispanics from slum tenements to what was then nice and new housing. Sadly persons who never had much in life and or aren't used to working for anything carried their bad ways into those new developments.
What really broke public housing in NYC was a shift in policy starting around the 1980's or 1990's. In response to threatened and or actual lawsuits the City began giving priority to the homeless, disabled/special needs, and so forth.
The other big thing was the City (via NYCHA) basically admitted it had been steering applicants to public housing based upon race. This is why some of the nicest public housing projects such as Todt Hill and South Beach on SI and some other places in Queens and Brooklyn managed to remain mostly white. When NYCHA began moving formerly homeless etc.. into those units things changed like night and day.
Todt Hill Houses and the surrounding streets like Westwood, Manor, etc... back in the day was a beautiful area with nicely kept up properties and rather quiet. Not no more it isn't. You have to go almost over to Todt Hill Road to be considered in a "nice" part now.
The Markham Homes and West Brighton Houses became places you valued your life cheaply even to walk near much less through.
He is all over the NYCHA since those 2 kids got stabbed in the elevator. He made it MANDATORY that by 2015 ALL public housing in every borough will have cameras installed. In fact they have had the cameras all along since the Bloomberg era with the proper funding to install them as well. Bloomberg jus never really pushed them. Source: Daily News.
Here is why cameras wont help deter crime nor solve them.
1. They will be visible. The thugs will simply vandalize them as soon as they are installed.
2. Attire. The same way people wear suits to go to work, the thugs wear oversized hats that block a majority of their face with hoody's on top of it.
3. Picture quality. Lets be real here. How many times have you seen pictures from the blotter section that are completely grainy and fuzzy. It looks like it was taken with a motorola star-tac .5 megapixel camera. (Respect to you if you actually know the phone im talking about. LOL)
Crime was just as bad if not worse when Bloomberg/Kelly were in office. The media just did'nt cover it as intensely. Why? crimes were simply downgraded.
They turned felonies to misdemeanors under false pretense.
It made them look good. Guiliani cleaned this city up more than Bloomberg with no damn cameras.
The problem in NewYork is the 3 letter gangs. Example: a gang called F.S.U (aka F!@king Sh#t Up) has been terrorizing Harlem since approx. 2001 and has managed to stay off the police radar. How? Simple. They dont use social media. They dont 'flag' (wear bandanas, have tattoos). Its really that simple. As far as police are concerned they are not a gang nor can they be classified as one therefor when a member commits a crime it not considered 'gang related' and simply referred to as an 'isolated incident'. Why? Because it sounds better in the newspaper and the police really believe this. Some really do abide by the 'no snitching' code making it impossible for police to do their job. Bloomberg tried 'Operation Impact Zone' which included vertical patrols of public housing (from the roof they would walk through the hallways down) which actually led to NYCLU putting an end to 'stop-and-frisk' because they argued these people simply 'tenants' being harassed. Another thing is the lay-out of the complexes. The thugs know their territory and travel from building to building via the roofs and can come out from another side or back entrance of a building. If the police actually printed all the info of all thugs that got AWAY from them you would be scared out of your mind. I honestly think things are going to get alot worse and new york is far behind detroit, chicago, and philly.
He is all over the NYCHA since those 2 kids got stabbed in the elevator. He made it MANDATORY that by 2015 ALL public housing in every borough will have cameras installed. In fact they have had the cameras all along since the Bloomberg era with the proper funding to install them as well. Bloomberg jus never really pushed them. Source: Daily News.
Here is why cameras wont help deter crime nor solve them.
1. They will be visible. The thugs will simply vandalize them as soon as they are installed.
2. Attire. The same way people wear suits to go to work, the thugs wear oversized hats that block a majority of their face with hoody's on top of it.
3. Picture quality. Lets be real here. How many times have you seen pictures from the blotter section that are completely grainy and fuzzy. It looks like it was taken with a motorola star-tac .5 megapixel camera. (Respect to you if you actually know the phone im talking about. LOL)
Crime was just as bad if not worse when Bloomberg/Kelly were in office. The media just did'nt cover it as intensely. Why? crimes were simply downgraded.
They turned felonies to misdemeanors under false pretense.
It made them look good. Guiliani cleaned this city up more than Bloomberg with no damn cameras.
The problem in NewYork is the 3 letter gangs. Example: a gang called F.S.U (aka F!@king Sh#t Up) has been terrorizing Harlem since approx. 2001 and has managed to stay off the police radar. How? Simple. They dont use social media. They dont 'flag' (wear bandanas, have tattoos). Its really that simple. As far as police are concerned they are not a gang nor can they be classified as one therefor when a member commits a crime it not considered 'gang related' and simply referred to as an 'isolated incident'. Why? Because it sounds better in the newspaper and the police really believe this. Some really do abide by the 'no snitching' code making it impossible for police to do their job. Bloomberg tried 'Operation Impact Zone' which included vertical patrols of public housing (from the roof they would walk through the hallways down) which actually led to NYCLU putting an end to 'stop-and-frisk' because they argued these people simply 'tenants' being harassed. Another thing is the lay-out of the complexes. The thugs know their territory and travel from building to building via the roofs and can come out from another side or back entrance of a building. If the police actually printed all the info of all thugs that got AWAY from them you would be scared out of your mind. I honestly think things are going to get alot worse and new york is far behind detroit, chicago, and philly.
I co-sign with you. They also wear sunglasses, and travel in two or more. Anytime it's a cloudy day and you see two people with a hat, hoodie, and sunglasses on, that should set your debauchery bells off.
Most criminals are stupid and are not aware of the cameras. Look at all the criminals that are being caught today with the use of cameras. Not to mention all the criminals that use cell phones and are caught with the help of them. Watch the First 48 hours on A&E, it's amazing how they catch criminals these days.
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NYC turning into Rio
