Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > New York > New York City
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 08-13-2014, 12:47 AM
 
6,940 posts, read 9,681,455 times
Reputation: 3153

Advertisements

I've always wondered what are the purpose of boroughs today? Do they have separate court systems? If so why are all arrestees from within NYC booked at Rikers Island?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 08-13-2014, 03:16 AM
 
Location: Bronx
16,200 posts, read 23,048,957 times
Reputation: 8346
Quote:
Originally Posted by knowledgeiskey View Post
I've always wondered what are the purpose of boroughs today? Do they have separate court systems? If so why are all arrestees from within NYC booked at Rikers Island?
Rikers Island is the local municipal jail. Don't get me wrong every borough has a place where criminals are detained and arraigned, but when sentenced for a misdemeanor criminals go to Rikers Island, but when sentenced for a felony criminals go upstate. Bookings take central booking and not at Rikers Island. However I could be wrong, but then again I never went to the criminal justice process and I don't know what its like. Every borough has their own court which follow NYS statutes and laws and] every borough has their own DA agency because each borough acts as a county within their own right. I know here in the Bronx their is a detention center at the foot of Hunts Point that used to be a former barge. I know of one guy who stayed their for two weeks until he was sentenced and was removed to Rikers Island for nearly a whole year thanks to unpaid child support. Central Bookings are located within the criminal court houses of each borough. Like here in the Bronx the Central booking is at 161st street. Or In Manhattan Central Booking is located at Folly Square and Brooklyn Central Booking is located at Columbus Square.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-13-2014, 04:51 AM
 
31,910 posts, read 26,989,302 times
Reputation: 24816
Quote:
Originally Posted by knowledgeiskey View Post
I've always wondered what are the purpose of boroughs today? Do they have separate court systems? If so why are all arrestees from within NYC booked at Rikers Island?
Since consolidation in 1898 the "boroughs" became part of New York City and are treated officially as counties under NYS constitution. This is why you hear "Richmond County" (Staten Island), Kings County (Brooklyn), Queens County, and Bronx County.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borough_(New_York_City)

Each borough elects their own district attorney (again same as all other counties in NYS), but nearly all other powers are vested in the Mayor and City Council along with several other elected offices (comptroller, public advocate, etc...). This position was further strengthened by a SCOTUS decision doing away with the (now defunct) Board of Estimate. Borough Presidents have very little to nil official powers and today and indeed the offices could be eliminated with the remaining functions transferred to local elected representatives sitting on the City Council and or that body as a whole.

Riker's Island is the main jail complex for the City of New York. It houses those convicted of sentences <one year (those convicted of felonies that is sentenced to terms of one year or more and sent to the NYS prison system). Those awaiting trial, cannot post bail and or denied same are kept at Riker's as well as those awaiting transfer elsewhere.

Arraignment takes place at any of the five central booking court houses in each of the boroughs. There are also "community courts" (one in Manhattan and IIRC more were opened in Brooklyn and elsewhere) where those facing "minor" offense or criminal charges (shoplifting, prostitution, small amount of pot or other drug possession, etc...) are processed. Here they will either plead not guilty or guilty. If the latter they can be returned to custody until bail is posted (if a judge grants), or they will be sent to Riker's to await trail.

Rikers Island - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are other jails in the NYC correctional system including the recently reopened Brooklyn House of Detention.

List of jail facilities in New York City - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

To give you an idea of how weak local borough governments (such as they are) there is this:
'Home Rule' Factor May Block S.I. Secession - NYTimes.com

Long story short the boroughs are part of NYC and power is exercised through either the mayor, City Council or Albany.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-13-2014, 02:18 PM
 
31,910 posts, read 26,989,302 times
Reputation: 24816
For the record many in Brooklyn were against consolidation and indeed with good reason.

At that time the city of Brooklyn was one of the top five or ten (cannot remember) in the United States. It had a vast and stable tax base that included manufacturing, farming, ports, etc... Much of the western shore of Brooklyn from south to the Queens border was industrial which explains those now toxic areas such as GC.

Unlike Manhattan Brooklyn is connected to the rest of the United States which eased transport of goods and persons to points east. The opening of the Brooklyn Bridge in 1893 meant easier transport across the East River so things relied less upon ferries. It also meant more persons could leave the cramped, crowded and dirty Manhattan for the relative bucolic Brooklyn.

Long story short some see the current renaissance of Brooklyn as the place finally getting it's own back and returning to a proper place. That is as a counterweight to the City being mainly about Manhattan.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-27-2014, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
30,639 posts, read 18,235,725 times
Reputation: 34515
As someone mentioned above, the boroughs of NYC are largely incorporated into and overseen by the central NYC government. Everything from sanitation to education (although, before the relatively recent modern mayoral control of schools, there was still substantial local, borough control over schools due to community board elections) to police and fire in the five boroughs are controlled by the central NYC government. However, the top law enforcement officer in each borough (AKA the district attorney) is separate and independent from the central government. And the borough president of each borough still formally selects a member of the top policy-making body of the NYC Dept. of Education. The borough presidents had significantly more power under the old City Board of Estimate (the Board essentially has significant budgetary and land use authority), when they, collectively, appointed 5 of the Board's 8 members; today, borough presidents do retain a-not-so-insignificant budget with which they can fund various projects throughout their boroughs.

Currently, apart from the district attorneys, most of the boroughs' "separate" powers may be seen in the community board system, whose members are nearly all appointed by either the borough presidents or local council members. However, these community boards, while very influential in some areas (i.e. their decisions on whether to recommend a liquor license weighs very heavily with state liquor authorities), don't operate independently of the city.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-28-2014, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
30,639 posts, read 18,235,725 times
Reputation: 34515
Quote:
Originally Posted by BugsyPal View Post
Unlike Manhattan Brooklyn is connected to the rest of the United States which eased transport of goods and persons to points east.
Just to clarify, Brooklyn is not connected to the rest of the United States. Brooklyn is properly a part of Long Island and, so, is very much disconnected from the rest of the United States, at least physically. The only borough that's largely connected to the geographic area that we'd consider the mainland (islands excluded, of course) is the Bronx, though part of Manhattan is physically linked to the Bronx.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:




Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > New York > New York City
View detailed profiles of:

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:12 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top