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Old 06-03-2015, 07:48 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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Berkeley is a major research institute. CUNY doesnt do major rrsearvh norbI am convinced the city or the state would give them money fir thisvresearch. They would rather fund Columbia, Cornell, and NYU.

With that said CUNY is good for going into education or civil service. Or you can do well in CUNY, and go to a top grad school.
Absolutely contrary to fact. A lot of important research is conducted at CUNY.

A good deal of this is funded by the same sources that provide funding for Columbia research.

There are also top programs in literature, art history, political science ... and so on.

The Graduate Center IS considered a top professional school in many areas. No school is top in every area. It depends on the faculty.
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Old 06-03-2015, 07:55 PM
 
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You would name your ALMA MATER. But again it's an Ivy, as you love to remind us CUNY grads.
Trust and believe we have other options other than Civil Service and education. Although nothing is wrong with either one.
I used civil service and education as examples. I never claimed those are the only options for CUNY grads. Bronxguyanese claimed you need to be wealthy and/or ivy league to survive in the city. That isn't true. So I gave some middle class examples. There are CUNY's alumnae in medicine and a number of fields.
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Old 06-03-2015, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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The red scare and the Japanese scares are just that. Scares.
You are clueless. Sputnik launch in the 1950s caused and academic panic in the United States. Sameway how today we fear Asians reading books about science and math at a young age, the American public believed that Russian kids were reading math and science books at age 5. Americans believed that Soviet Universities ran circles around the best colleges the west have to offered such as Harvard, Yale, Cambridge, Oxford, Princeton etc. Americans and British feared that Communism has eclipsed democratic/capitalist universities of the west. Our current college system and model is based off and from the Cold War period. It was only the rich, wealthy and bright that went to ivy Leagues and top colleges, and nothing else. If America did not panic about sputnik, we would not be talking right now and our world would be completely different place. Hell I can guarantee that if the sputnik panic did not happened, an average Joe or Jane can get a job on Wall Street as an investor straight out of high school vs out of an Ivy or top business school as of today. The Soviet Sputnik launch helped propel and expand college/higher education in this country thanks to good old American fear and paranoia.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_crisis
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Old 06-03-2015, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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I used civil service and education as examples. I never claimed those are the only options for CUNY grads. Bronxguyanese claimed you need to be wealthy and/or ivy league to survive in the city. That isn't true. So I gave some middle class examples. There are CUNY's alumnae in medicine and a number of fields.
When did I say that?
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Old 06-03-2015, 11:06 PM
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Absolutely contrary to fact. A lot of important research is conducted at CUNY.

A good deal of this is funded by the same sources that provide funding for Columbia research.

There are also top programs in literature, art history, political science ... and so on.

The Graduate Center IS considered a top professional school in many areas. No school is top in every area. It depends on the faculty.
There are also professors that teach the same courses that they also teach at Columbia, Cornell, and Pen Wharton School. There are also joint programs with these and other Universities.
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Old 06-04-2015, 06:04 AM
 
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Right ... Because the wealthiest people are always the smartest and most interesting people.

I mean, everyone knows that.

Right ?
On average, probably true. The richest and most successful people, on the whole, tend to be more interesting and intelligent than the poorest and least successful people.
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Old 06-04-2015, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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On average, probably true. The richest and most successful people, on the whole, tend to be more interesting and intelligent than the poorest and least successful people.
And George W Bush is smart?

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Old 06-04-2015, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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And George Washington Bush is smart?
His statement was a general statement, not a specific statement as to any individual. (Also, it's George Walker Bush.) There are plenty of dumb rich people (especially among those who inherit their wealth or otherwise come from privileged backgrounds--the point being mainly that those who rise into wealth from the middle class or poverty are for the most part well above average intelligence) and plenty of smart poor people.
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Old 06-04-2015, 07:18 AM
 
Location: West Harlem
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On average, probably true. The richest and most successful people, on the whole, tend to be more interesting and intelligent than the poorest and least successful people.
You should definitely continue to consume the myth. That way you will be prepared in case you run into any "rich and successful" people.

Caveat - in order to continue drowning out the truth you might eventually need to turn the music even louder on your little gadget. This can result in permanent hearing loss.
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Old 06-04-2015, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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His statement was a general statement, not a specific statement as to any individual. (Also, it's George Walker Bush.) There are plenty of dumb rich people (especially among those who inherit their wealth or otherwise come from privileged backgrounds--the point being mainly that those who rise into wealth from the middle class or poverty are for the most part well above average intelligence) and plenty of smart poor people.
That was a typo. I have auto correct on my phone.
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