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Its actually not allowed. An unlimited Metrocard is lawfully only allowed to be used for one person per trip, however many transportation route that person takes per trip. It is not allowed to be used as the OP described. Sure, the OP could try doing what the post reads (after waiting 18 minutes), but should not be upset if he receives a fine for doing so. Now, what is allowed, is swiping someone through (even a stranger) with a pay-per-ride card or even swiping a stranger or someone else through with an unlimited card AFTER you have completed your trip (i.e. after departing the turnstile, etc.).
As most people know ... there are indeed people with unlimited cards selling swipes outside the turnstiles. I do not know how much money they make. They do seem to have have dwindled over the last year, no idea why.
The MTA probably changed the time delay for that reason - I think it was shorter at one time ... ?
Ten minutes ?
Its actually not allowed. An unlimited Metrocard is lawfully only allowed to be used for one person per trip, however many transportation route that person takes per trip. It is not allowed to be used as the OP described. Sure, the OP could try doing what the post reads (after waiting 18 minutes), but should not be upset if he receives a fine for doing so. Now, what is allowed, is swiping someone through (even a stranger) with a pay-per-ride card or even swiping a stranger or someone else through with an unlimited card AFTER you have completed your trip (i.e. after departing the turnstile, etc.).
The last is not legal - they give people tickets for doing that at the 127th exit of the ABCD and I would assume elsewhere as well.
Nonetheless, there is a line of people waiting at any given time - "gimme a swipe." They can be aggressive.
And at least one person (there once were three) selling swipes. The machines are really often broken so this market was cornered immediately.
The sellers usually block all of the turnstiles with something and then block the open turnstile themselves, soliciting customers.
This has decreased, though. It was once a real nuisance. Begging for swipes has not.
Not exactly. If person A is swiping to get on the train and person B is swiping ten seconds later to get on the bus then it works because it's considered a transfer. And don't quote me on this but if the above works (as I have done it multiple times) I don't see why this scenerio wouldn't (haven't tried it):
Person A swipes at Stop 1 - gives card to Person B - and Person B walks to Stop 2 and gets on with the same unlimited metrocard. I assume Person B would have to get on a different color/number train for it to be considered a transfer and work?
Just to be clear I am only replying to what WithDisp said because OP's question wasn't the brightest.
Yes. The situation you have described would work.
Also on a fixed money metrocard this would work with a bus transfer, but NOT on a second subway.
And I've had the way I explained the matter in my first post for unlimited card swipes for other people described to me this way by various other non-news sources.
Regardless of what the ultimate state of the law, the fact that the police ticket for this issue isn't very helpful. Indeed, the NYPD also tickets people for using their cell phones while riding bikes, even though the law explicitly says that the phone ban relates to use while driving a motor vehicle. And they continued to ticket topless women years after the Court of Appeals ruled that women can walk down the street topless.
Regardless of what the ultimate state of the law, the fact that the police ticket for this issue isn't very helpful. Indeed, the NYPD also tickets people for using their cell phones while riding bikes, even though the law explicitly says that the phone ban relates to use while driving a motor vehicle. And they continued to ticket topless women years after the Court of Appeals ruled that women can walk down the street topless.
Because there is no accountability amongst officers, something that radically needs to change.
Yes, I am familiar. I didn't notice where they assured of the legality. I think it is one of those gray areas.
Did they ever get that manna, by the way ? from heaven and all.
Because under our current economic organization, someone needs to pay. It will never be the case that monies are taken from executives - analogous to those truly useless and quite well-paid people in university administrations.
Most of the "Occupy" movement was self-serving in the extreme. I would not take anything they said seriously.
Certainly not, which of course is the reason they put the time delay in. Otherwise you'd have bums standing there selling swipes for a buck and making $500 a day.
Bums?? Hell, I'm a working professional and even I'd make that my weekend gig if this was possible, lol.
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