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The gap between Manhattan employment vs Brooklyn has been steadily decreasing, since Brooklyn has had double Manhattan job growth for over a decade now. Brooklyn has been the fastest growing borough in terms of population growth, new construction, and job growth. It will take roughly 40+ years for Brooklyn to equal Manhattan in jobs (if ever), but make no mistake, this is the smallest gap between the boroughs since 1870 or something. Certainly nobody alive today saw anything close to the current numbers, ever.
I don't get the Brooklyn to Manhattan comparison. Its just not there. If you want to compare Brooklyn to somewhere else it would be to Queens or the Bronx. Manhattan is a stretch.
I don't get the Brooklyn to Manhattan comparison. Its just not there. If you want to compare Brooklyn to somewhere else it would be to Queens or the Bronx. Manhattan is a stretch.
The comparison is only made in a sense of what Brooklyn could be like in the long future as far as projections go if current rates of growth/gentrification/construction continue that we had in the past decade and a half. If we wanna compare the boroughs as they are as of 2015, obviously Brooklyn and Queens are the two boroughs close together. In fact, Brooklyn only overtook Queens in the total number of jobs very recently, in 2011... for the first time in 45 years.
Would be interesting to see how or if things have changed, but as of the first quarter 2014 according to government numbers Brooklyn (Kings County) had the lowest wages of all five boroughs.
If I remember correctly. The Bronx has a higher wages than Brooklyn. Gentrification in terms of improving income of Brooklynites is a huge failure. Majority of transplants in Brooklyn work in Manhattan for their professional jobs.
If I remember correctly. The Bronx has a higher wages than Brooklyn. Gentrification in terms of improving income of Brooklynites is a huge failure. Majority of transplants in Brooklyn work in Manhattan for their professional jobs.
This is not true as Brooklyn avg wage growth doesn't go up by much largely due to high job growth. Think about it, for every 10,000 jobs Brooklyn creates Queens creates 5,000 jobs (Bronx creates about 1,200). In order for Brooklyn to just maintain its wage avg, Brooklyn had to have created 5,000 jobs higher than Brooklyn average.
If I remember correctly. The Bronx has a higher wages than Brooklyn. Gentrification in terms of improving income of Brooklynites is a huge failure. Majority of transplants in Brooklyn work in Manhattan for their professional jobs.
Obviously. Look how crowded the trains are going from Brooklyn to Manhattan and a big percentage of the people are getting on and off on the first few stops into Brooklyn. Neighborhoods like Williamsburg have the vast majority of their jobs in Manhattan.
Downtown Brooklyn does have obvious job growth though. There are a lot of office buildings under construction near Barclay's stadium. Dumbo's old warehouse buildings now have media, tech, and non profit organizations in them.
However Brooklyn having the highest rate of job growth (if this is true I have not read the stats) does not mean the total number of jobs (particularly high paying ones) will ever catch up to the ones in Manhattan. Manhattan could continue to have slower job gains and still stay far ahead of Brooklyn in quality and quantity. Brooklyn's growth could peak out soon too.
Brooklyn is in no danger of having a rivalry with Manhattan anytime soon.
Brooklyn is the result of a liberal politician experiment that caused it to be the most prominent model of income inequality that this country has ever witnessed.
Exactly as your stats depict, Brooklyn is still a long ways from being anything close to what Manhattan has become. Brooklyn is still much more like Queens and the Bronx than that of Manhattan.
Hey stat-boy, got any figures on poverty or crime rates?
"The most impoverished area in the city is a bowtie-shaped slice of land in the Melrose-Morrisania section of the South Bronx.
The annual median income for the 229 households living in that slice of the Bronx is $8,694, according to the latest census data. The second-poorest census tract in the city, with a median income of $9001, lies in Fort Greene, Brooklyn, in an area that includes the Ingersoll and Whitman public housing complexes. The federal income poverty level is under $18,000 for a family of three."
This was during the 2009 recession but this still gives you an idea about the quality of Northeastern Brooklyn.
"The situation was worst in East New York, Brooklyn, where the unemployment rate for the third quarter of this year was 19.2 percent, according to the study, which was conducted by the Fiscal Policy Institute. That means that almost one-fifth of the adults living in East New York could not find jobs; it does not account for those unemployed residents who did not seek employment."
Don't get me wrong, I like the nice parts of Brooklyn like Williamsburg, Greenpoint, etc. At the same time big parts of Brooklyn are as ghetto as ever and will be that way for a long time because the city can't just evict people out of all those housing projects, halfway houses, shelters, and other governmental housing.
Besides the Bronx. Brooklyn also has some of the highest levels of poverty in the country. Even with gentrification, data has been provided that shows no one benefited from gentrification except for a small few people and poverty still grew.
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