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Old 11-06-2015, 08:40 PM
 
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The effect of forced integration of schools on future school performances is comparable to that of forcing a few Indians into the elite basketball/football teams and expect the teams to remain competitive.

I have first hand experience in witnessing how integration of schools in the south did more harm than good to the majority of children. There are some real bad apples that should not be let in the general public schools at all. The politicians are just too timid to acknolege this negative element. The US needs more leaders like trump to get to the root of many of the problems that are snowballing nationwide.
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Old 11-06-2015, 08:53 PM
 
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The effect of forced integration of schools on future school performances is comparable to that of forcing a few Indians into the elite basketball/football teams and expect the teams to remain competitive.

I have first hand experience in witnessing how integration of schools in the south did more harm than good to the majority of children. There are some real bad apples that should not be let in the general public schools at all. The politicians are just too timid to acknolege this negative element. The US needs more leaders like trump to get to the root of many of the problems that are snowballing nationwide.
Integration of Southern and even Mid-West school systems brought the massive white flight from urban areas to suburbs/rural areas. That in turn set the stage for demographics that have remained largely unchanged until recent history. Even today with places like Atlanta seeing a surge of new residents often the "color line" remains unchanged.

New York City like much of the Northeast saw "white flight" in the post Civil Rights Act years but with school districts largely zoned by geographical areas the affect was less. On Staten Island for instance public primary and intermediate schools were and still are largely segregated by race if only because of the local area's population. Of course the experiment of unzoning high schools (except for the prime special schools) has not been a resounding success. It is no wonder then some parents are resistant to such changes the primary level.

However make no mistake primary school as well as intermediate are in de Boobs and the liberal/progressive/Democratic City Council's cross hairs. The racial segregation of Northern public school systems in particular "liberal" New York City's has been noticed and reported upon. So much so that the DofE and the head of that place have "vowed" to take it on.

How far that will go remains to be seen as mayor de Boob seems to have thrown cold water on the idea of "forced" desegregation: De Blasio: City must respect families’ investments amid school diversity debates | Chalkbeat
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Old 11-06-2015, 09:20 PM
 
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They're not necessarily liberal though...and it's not even known what percentage of the residents in the area are against the merge
. Try to find someone to admit they voted for Romney.
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Old 11-06-2015, 09:21 PM
 
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The effect of forced integration of schools on future school performances is comparable to that of forcing a few Indians into the elite basketball/football teams and expect the teams to remain competitive.

I have first hand experience in witnessing how integration of schools in the south did more harm than good to the majority of children. There are some real bad apples that should not be let in the general public schools at all. The politicians are just too timid to acknolege this negative element. The US needs more leaders like trump to get to the root of many of the problems that are snowballing nationwide.
Researchers in the education field all speak of how minorities improved academically and professionally in integrated schools. Segregation is what created abject poverty in the South as it was the legacy of slavery which continued defacto until the 60s.

At with more integration in the South they spend nowhere near what NYC spends on welfare benefits for better or worse. Even where there is public housing it is not on the scale of NYC.
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Old 11-07-2015, 05:31 AM
 
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Researchers in the education field all speak of how minorities improved academically and professionally in integrated schools. Segregation is what created abject poverty in the South as it was the legacy of slavery which continued defacto until the 60s.

At with more integration in the South they spend nowhere near what NYC spends on welfare benefits for better or worse. Even where there is public housing it is not on the scale of NYC.
Did they breakdown the results to identify which part of the minorities benefited and at whose losses? Using the same bball analogy, if you integrate a few indians into an elite nba team, no question that those indian players will see impressive personal improvements after a season but how would the whole team perform? There are a lot of minority students who can achieve and perform under orderly educational environment, but unfortunately their learning environment is adversely affected by the lack of inspiration, motivation, and presence of too many mal-behaving subhuman brains who are absolutely poisonous to any learning environment. Integration can improve the inspiration and motivation situation, but is not a solution to reduce the negative impact of those trouble maker kids who will just ruin any schools. They should be filtered out of the public school system and dealt with separately early in their life instead of wasting all educational dollars first then locking them up anyway after they turn 18.

Integration should not focus simply on skin color, but on assessing the chemistry of the mixed student body and its anticipated outcome. No child left behind act is the biggest educational scam at a national level that can only be envisioned by an intellectually compromised leader like GWB.
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Old 11-07-2015, 08:37 AM
 
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. Try to find someone to admit they voted for Romney.
Voting Democrat doesn't automatically make someone a liberal...

My point is that someone's not an actual liberal if they're afraid to send their kids to school with minorities
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Old 11-07-2015, 08:38 AM
 
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Extremely disruptive students should be removed from mainstream schools. They are a cancer in "White" schools and "minority " schools. Just a few more per classroom in minority schools. In the suburbs lots of districts remove these animal children and put them all in one big "zoo" school.
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Old 11-07-2015, 09:07 AM
 
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Voting Democrat doesn't automatically make someone a liberal...

My point is that someone's not an actual liberal if they're afraid to send their kids to school with minorities
Very true. Bloomberg was a staunch liberal, yet part of Republican party before he became independent .
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Old 11-07-2015, 09:31 AM
 
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Extremely disruptive students should be removed from mainstream schools. They are a cancer in "White" schools and "minority " schools. Just a few more per classroom in minority schools. In the suburbs lots of districts remove these animal children and put them all in one big "zoo" school.
They do not put them in one big school. The low performing students are often separated just by that... Being low performing students. This happens in urban and suburban schools.
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Old 11-07-2015, 09:59 AM
 
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I am not talking about low performing. I am talking about bad @-- kids. They are put in "alternative" schools in the suburbs.
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