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Old 01-01-2016, 03:32 PM
 
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There are more immigrants coming from Asia now than Latin America.

Yes, the Latino population is the fastest growing of all groups not just African Americans.

Let us not overlook that conditions in some places in Latin America have improved or somewhat improved.

Also, one that few seem to speak of...the growing African immigrant population. It's still increasing.
All this is actually irrelevant.

The point was that there are no shortage of newcomers that businesses can get to live further out yet commute to central areas of NYC to do working class jobs.

Therefore the city does not care that the marketplace via gentrification has priced some people out.

Landlords, real estate agencies, and sellers are in the real estate business for the money. Not out of the goodness of their hearts. They charge what the market will bear.
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Old 01-04-2016, 07:15 PM
 
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Is it even possible to get rid of public housing? I always see discussion of it, but don't really understand how they would be able to do that and force the low income people out onto the streets. How does that work?
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Old 01-04-2016, 07:21 PM
 
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Is it even possible to get rid of public housing? I always see discussion of it, but don't really understand how they would be able to do that and force the low income people out onto the streets. How does that work?
Yup all politicians have a price and im sure developers are devising plans on how much to throw at the ther souless individuals to do their bidding.
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Old 01-04-2016, 08:25 PM
 
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Is it even possible to get rid of public housing? I always see discussion of it, but don't really understand how they would be able to do that and force the low income people out onto the streets. How does that work?

Rent vouchers and shoving the poors out to the suburbs. Suburban poverty is increasing intensely. The fauxburnists don't give a crap about that though, as long as their new urban playcation adult romper room spots are free of those poor people. If you want TRUE diversity, it's best to move to the suburbs now. Inner cities are becoming major white-bread land.
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Old 01-05-2016, 02:34 AM
 
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You don't have to kick anyone out into the streets. Most of the housing projects are those brown, brick towers-in-the-park buildings. What they have are plenty of underutilized/wasted space devoted to lawns, parking lots, basketball courts, garbage/dumpsters, etc.

You would build a building on those open space first. Then move residents in one of the older buildings into that new building. Then demolish the old and vacated building and build the second on that. Keep repeating until all the older buildings are replaced with new ones.

Of course you would build following the street grid instead of the original superblock. In effect, you would remove the urban scar that was created back in the 60's Robert Moses era. The new buildings will be mix use (have retail on the ground floors and apartments above).
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Old 01-05-2016, 06:38 AM
 
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I dont understand these implants. What's so appealing about moving to these neighborhoods to live in a 2br apt with 4 roommates and pay $3200/month in rent? Is life in Iowa THAT bad that you're willing to live under such conditions here?
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Old 01-05-2016, 06:44 AM
 
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I dont understand these implants. What's so appealing about moving to these neighborhoods to live in a 2br apt with 4 roommates and pay $3200/month in rent? Is life in Iowa THAT bad that you're willing to live under such conditions here?
I don't mind people from Iowa migrating to NYC. In fact, these people from Iowa make better residents than the hood people they are supposedly displacing. They're more civilized. Anything to get rid of the hood demographics in NYC I am 100% in favor for. These people gotta go if they can't act right.
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Old 01-05-2016, 06:57 AM
 
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By far my favorite analogy is calling gentrification neo colonialism in a metaphorical sense. Any new ny'ers want to school me on how its not with your pc philosophical perspectives than give me a history lesson about the evils of 19th century colonialism.
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Old 01-05-2016, 06:59 AM
 
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I don't mind people from Iowa migrating to NYC. In fact, these people from Iowa make better residents than the hood people they are supposedly displacing. They're more civilized. Anything to get rid of the hood demographics in NYC I am 100% in favor for. These people gotta go if they can't act right.
Agreed. Besides you get what you pay for. With working people in these areas, the neighborhoods end up with better services and amenities. The city gets a tax base instead of having to spend money on hood people.

Of course the hood people are welcome to stay provided they WORK for IT!
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Old 01-05-2016, 07:04 AM
 
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You don't have to kick anyone out into the streets. Most of the housing projects are those brown, brick towers-in-the-park buildings. What they have are plenty of underutilized/wasted space devoted to lawns, parking lots, basketball courts, garbage/dumpsters, etc.

You would build a building on those open space first. Then move residents in one of the older buildings into that new building. Then demolish the old and vacated building and build the second on that. Keep repeating until all the older buildings are replaced with new ones.

Of course you would build following the street grid instead of the original superblock. In effect, you would remove the urban scar that was created back in the 60's Robert Moses era. The new buildings will be mix use (have retail on the ground floors and apartments above).
This is already happening where they tore down Prospect Plaza in Brooklyn. The new buildings are apart of the street grid with retail on the ground floor.
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