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Old 05-23-2017, 03:33 AM
 
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Whenever someone gets pushed off of a NYC subway platform and gets run over by a subway train, the topic comes up about platform screen doors. They are increasingly common in subway systems around the world. Some are full-height, some are half-height.








If platform screen doors are too expensive, maybe NYC can just add simple guardrails, with the cost offset by advertising billboards.



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Old 05-23-2017, 05:54 AM
 
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Are you suggesting that the City of New York do something logical that actually makes sense? How dare you!?
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Old 05-23-2017, 06:03 AM
 
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Some of these platforms, particularly Union Square, are so damn thin that I am terrified I will bump into someone and knock them onto the tracks during a busy rush hour.
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Old 05-23-2017, 06:06 AM
 
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Some of these platforms, particularly Union Square, are so damn thin that I am terrified I will bump into someone and knock them onto the tracks during a busy rush hour.
Same thing at Wall Street for the 2/3 trains.
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Old 05-23-2017, 06:22 AM
 
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Some of these platforms, particularly Union Square, are so damn thin that I am terrified I will bump into someone and knock them onto the tracks during a busy rush hour.

So then, how can it be wise to cut another 2 feet (One each side) off the platforms with these guardrails/doors. etc.
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Old 05-23-2017, 07:36 AM
 
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So then, how can it be wise to cut another 2 feet (One each side) off the platforms with these guardrails/doors. etc.
The compression means that people can fill in spaces closer to the edge without fear of falling or being pushed in.

Screen doors are a better idea though, because it'd mean fewer delays from track fires and the like due to garbage on tracks and people holding doors, or much less commonly, falling into the tracks.
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Old 05-23-2017, 07:42 AM
 
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Screen doors have to open, either into the car or onto the platform. That will add to the crush at the doors, slowing down the train system.
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Old 05-23-2017, 07:47 AM
 
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Hell no
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Old 05-23-2017, 07:50 AM
 
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Screen doors have to open, either into the car or onto the platform. That will add to the crush at the doors, slowing down the train system.
Sure they do, they can open when the subway doors open, they are usually cued to start opening around the same time, but usually start closing slightly before the train doors do.

Screen doors have been used on far more crushed platforms than anything NYC has. This isn't a new methodology. However, it's not really the crush I think this benefits, though it does. It's the fact that compared to cities in other developing countries, we seem to have:

- more sociopathic pushing behavior

- a much larger issue with throwing garbage on to the tracks
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Old 05-23-2017, 08:21 AM
 
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Screen doors have to open, either into the car or onto the platform. That will add to the crush at the doors, slowing down the train system.
I've ridden on multiple subway systems around the world, with platform screen doors, and I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

The platform screen doors slide off to the side, at the same time as the subway train doors.

https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-04-2016/UKzVsr.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkLAP9QBCCg

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