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Old 06-14-2017, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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I find an enormous parallel between the trajectory of the US with the trajectory of NYC. Most noted, in my mind, is the incredible rise of the US in the first half of the 20th century, this coming of age era when the nation was becoming one of the leaders among nations and on a trajectory to being the greatest nation on earth and NYC's amazing rise in during the same era, itself headed for "world's greatest city" status.

New York City today is unquestionably either the world's greatest city or one that shares that role with London. In the US, NYC has no peers and is our ultimate city. No question there. But NYC does not play in the local pond that is the US and in that bigger pond, international cities, unlike domestic ones, can and do challenge its role and status.

Yet NYC is in America. And it would be hard to ignore that, in relationship to other places, our nation's relative position is dropping. An argument of "America in Decline" is one that would not be hard to make.

If (and I realize that is a big "if") you accept the US's declining position currently, what does that mean for NYC's future? In an era when there is a shift taking place from the North Atlantic, centered largely on the US and to a lesser degree Western Europe, being the center of the world to an era, with the amazing rise of Asia and the Far East, where the future suggests the east-west axis of Eurasia as being the heart of the planet, with the United States and the Americas being more peripheral, CAN NYC REMAIN AT THE TOP OF ITS GAME?
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Old 06-14-2017, 06:01 AM
 
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Who cares, if it's "top of its game". Sure maybe Shanghai will overtake NYC in size and combined wealth one day. But if you love it here, just enjoy it here!

It will still be one of the major cities of the world.
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Old 06-14-2017, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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I find an enormous parallel between the trajectory of the US with the trajectory of NYC. Most noted, in my mind, is the incredible rise of the US in the first half of the 20th century, this coming of age era when the nation was becoming one of the leaders among nations and on a trajectory to being the greatest nation on earth and NYC's amazing rise in during the same era, itself headed for "world's greatest city" status.

New York City today is unquestionably either the world's greatest city or one that shares that role with London. In the US, NYC has no peers and is our ultimate city. No question there. But NYC does not play in the local pond that is the US and in that bigger pond, international cities, unlike domestic ones, can and do challenge its role and status.

Yet NYC is in America. And it would be hard to ignore that, in relationship to other places, our nation's relative position is dropping. An argument of "America in Decline" is one that would not be hard to make.

If (and I realize that is a big "if") you accept the US's declining position currently, what does that mean for NYC's future? In an era when there is a shift taking place from the North Atlantic, centered largely on the US and to a lesser degree Western Europe, being the center of the world to an era, with the amazing rise of Asia and the Far East, where the future suggests the east-west axis of Eurasia as being the heart of the planet, with the United States and the Americas being more peripheral, CAN NYC REMAIN AT THE TOP OF ITS GAME?
London has remained "at the top of it's game" for a hundred years after the collapse of England so it can obviously happen.That, despite the fact that London was nearly obliterated during that period. One could argue that London is now finally on the verge of keeling over but still , it took a hundred years.

One thing we know throughout the entire history of the world however is that once's it's over it's over. There is no coming back once the apex has been reached and the downward slide begins. Both the US and NYC have reached their apex and the slide has begun.

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Old 06-14-2017, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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London has remained "at the top of it's game" for a hundred years after the collapse of England so it can obviously happen.That, despite the fact that London was nearly obliterated during that period. One could argue that London is now finally on the verge of keeling over but still , it took a hundred years.

One thing we know throughout the entire history of the world however is that once's it's over it's over. There is no coming back once the apex has been reached and the downward slide begins. Both the US and NYC have reached their apex and the slide has begun.
Bluedog, you raise good points here but I think in a way, NYC represents the US more than London does the UK. London is part of western Europe which certainly was interconnected through the EU; I realize Britain has "brexited", but it still represents that region and, as I noted, I think the axis running from the Far East to western Europe will be the key one, the center of the planet.
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Old 06-14-2017, 06:55 AM
 
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, I think the axis running from the Far East to western Europe will be the key one, the center of the planet.

Right through Moscow?
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Old 06-14-2017, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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Bluedog, you raise good points here but I think in a way, NYC represents the US more than London does the UK. London is part of western Europe which certainly was interconnected through the EU; I realize Britain has "brexited", but it still represents that region and, as I noted, I think the axis running from the Far East to western Europe will be the key one, the center of the planet.
I'd bring the axis further South, running from the far East through India to Africa. While nobody here is watching ,China is building African trans continental high speed railroads (electric no less),superhighways,container ports and the infrastructure to control everything,including unimaginable resources and deliver all to the East coast of Africa.They are really setting up shop.

Africa is the next China for cheap manufacturing and China is the next US for global domination.
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