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Old 12-24-2017, 11:04 AM
 
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Does the one drop rule even apply anymore? race is a social construct. if Italians, Irish, Eastern European, Greeks, Portuguese, and Jews can be considered white so is a significant amount of Colombians.
Most Colombians have visible native and/or Black ancestry. Race is not a social construct. Genetically they have significant non European elements.

 
Old 12-24-2017, 11:04 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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At the same time to base an entire country of people off your friends at work?

Clearly your friends are part of the picture, but you’re claiming that they are all of the picture.
What I said was that stereotypes exist for a reason, and clearly some Argentines fit them. What I can't stand is people that try to act like these stereotypes came out of left field. Of course not all Argentines are like this, but clearly some are. Let's not pretend like that isn't the case.
 
Old 12-24-2017, 11:05 AM
 
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Europeans are much more openly racist than Americans. They don't filter themselves as we do.
Proof? Experience in Europe?
 
Old 12-24-2017, 11:05 AM
 
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Are you talking about paying taxes?
I guess so, but also through trade agreements and shareholder interests. So many Mexican billionaires, yet so many people so desperate to make money that they must swim across rivers.
 
Old 12-24-2017, 11:06 AM
 
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What I said was that stereotypes exist for a reason, and clearly some Argentines fit them. What I can't stand is people that try to act like these stereotypes came out of left field. Of course not all Argentines are like this, but clearly some are. Let's not pretend like that isn't the case.
I never said none where like that. But to say all Argentines or even most is reaching. Attitudes towards stuff like this change too.
 
Old 12-24-2017, 11:06 AM
 
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Maspeth? Bay Ridge? Glendale? Ridgewood? Staten Island?

I know places like Inwood and Woodside and Sunnyside and Greenpoint used to be working class white, but not sure they are anymore.
Those neighborhoods that you're looking for don't exist in NYC anymore.
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Old 12-24-2017, 11:07 AM
 
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Proof? Experience in Europe?
Most of my business is with Europeans. I'm always surprised by the racist remarks they make. When they are in the US I often have to tell them that they can't say certain things here.
 
Old 12-24-2017, 11:40 AM
 
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If they are not oppressed then why do so many of them want to move here?


Because fiscal and or political conditions at home cause them to make that move.


Case in point South Florida which is a melting pot of Hispanic/Latino...


First Cubans came due to the revolution, and they were mostly "European", highly educated, and so forth class that were about to lose power. Successive waves have seen that bar lower and lower.


Then you have Brazilians and most recently the Argentines who were fleeing their country as it was (again) going through fiscal instability. So many were coming to the USA (and not leaving) that government finally changed the visa laws/rules to keep more of them from decamping.


For the record many Cubans in Florida that are "old school", that is came or are descended from the early arrivals are quite happy that US government began clamping down on "wet foot/dry foot" arrivals. Why? Because basically what is left in Cuba trying to get out are the darker and or poorer. The educated ones such as doctors and whatever long have had other ways to get out of that country and or even into the USA.
 
Old 12-24-2017, 11:40 AM
 
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I don't find Europeans to be any more racist than Americans
 
Old 12-24-2017, 11:51 AM
 
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I don't find Europeans to be any more racist than Americans
Europeans are fine having Latin Americans, Africans and Arabs contribute to their current pension schemes, even if that means throwing welfare at them temporarily, but just wait until it comes time for reimbursement 15 - 30 years from now.

I do business with both Southerners and Europeans alike. The comparison isn't even close. Europeans are far more racist.
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