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Old 01-06-2018, 09:59 AM
 
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It has? You must be wealthy or some sort of government employed economist. For most of us living in the real world, costs were increasing and wages stagnant, with the FED being ever so careful and hesitant. All of a sudden now you have stock market records being broken weekly, manufacturing indexes at the highest they have been in 15 years, Black and Hispanic unemployment at the lowest level it has ever been on record, etc... Liberals don't know what to do with the invisible hand. It has their budget experts all dumbfounded. But yes, we the people can run this ourselves. Are liberals ready to reverse these gains in 2021 for the sake of their addiction to centralized power and control? They do appear to be that illogical because at the end of the day they really don't care about the financial well being of masses of individuals. They are hoping for a financial catastrophe, with us the victims, just for the sake of our votes.
Wages are still stagnant. Still waiting for them to pick up. Also you and tour ilk won't admit this but the recovery started under Obama.

Let's be honest you are all about partisanship. You can say Trump completeley deserves credit for an economic recovery that was already taking place before he was elected but will not give De Blasio credit for crime reaching record lows.

It's all about whether someone has an R or D next to their name.
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Old 01-06-2018, 11:06 AM
 
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Wages are still stagnant. Still waiting for them to pick up. Also you and tour ilk won't admit this but the recovery started under Obama.

Let's be honest you are all about partisanship. You can say Trump completeley deserves credit for an economic recovery that was already taking place before he was elected but will not give De Blasio credit for crime reaching record lows.

It's all about whether someone has an R or D next to their name.

trump has nothing to do with the recovery. The current market is all about acquisitions and mergers and chinese foreign investment

still waiting on that beautiful infrastructure.
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Old 01-06-2018, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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Wages are still stagnant. Still waiting for them to pick up. Also you and tour ilk won't admit this but the recovery started under Obama.

Let's be honest you are all about partisanship. You can say Trump completeley deserves credit for an economic recovery that was already taking place before he was elected but will not give De Blasio credit for crime reaching record lows.

It's all about whether someone has an R or D next to their name.
It would be amazingly difficult for a recovery not to begin during the Obama administration, otherwise we'd all be down the creek. And I wouldn't credit Obama or Trump or deBlasio or any politician for nothing. It is us NYers that brought crime to historical lows. It is us Americans that brought the market to historical highs. Trump and deBlasio give us the people the framework to take the power back. Obama and Bloomberg were trying to strangle us with their arrogance and totalitarianism.
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Old 01-07-2018, 08:49 AM
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How so? Compared to when, the 80' and 90's.
Compare to the Guiliani and Bloomberg administrations. Tons of homeless people, beggars, traffic nightmare to name a few.

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trump has nothing to do with the recovery. The current market is all about acquisitions and mergers and chinese foreign investment

still waiting on that beautiful infrastructure.
Nothing? Under Obama we never had 3% GDP growth. NEVER. Trump is slicing regulations, and just passed a tax package. The economy is responding.
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Old 01-07-2018, 10:57 AM
 
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One way to gauge performance is to compare against peer cities and in that de Blasio has done okay. He definitely wasn’t the apocalypse, so that’s almost an endorsement given some of the doom and gloom proclamations that were made around his election.

Almost all urban cores had a huge dip in crime in the 90s and going out from there and usually recessions cause an uptick in crime which NYC did not have. I’m not saying de Blasio’s administration had much to do with this current state of affairs, but I do think it’s questionable how strong of an effect on crime Giuliani’s administration and its policies had given that peer cities in the same timeframe had similar results without the same policies.

I have a hunch that a fruitful avenue of study is lead concentration. There’s a decent body of evidence, popularized by the book Freakonomics and drawing from multiple studies, that there is a particularly strong correlation between childhood exposure to lead and violent crime. We have studies backing this on the individual level with how lead physiologically affects childhood brain development and we have larger studies on the correlation between crime rates and the legislation against leaded gasoline and lead paint. This correlates well with violent crime rates and inner cities (which as economic centers and being generally older housing and infrastructure stock means far greater exposure to these for residents) and crime rates. My hunch is that with a lot of the older industrial cities, the large exodus to the suburbs and corresponding state of disrepair and lack of maintenance in cities with older cores meant that lead leaching from old water infrastructure meant that there were larger concentrations of lead exposure in many of the other older cities unable to pony up for maintenance or replacement of this infrastructure which is why you get stuff like Flint or findings of high lead concentrations on Chicago’s south side. It’s a pet theory that’s unlikely to account for a lot of other things, but I wouldn't be surprised if a drill down study actually finds a correlation.

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Old 01-07-2018, 11:46 AM
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One way to gauge performance is to compare against peer cities and in that de Blasio has done okay. He definitely wasn’t the apocalypse, so that’s almost an endorsement given some of the doom and gloom proclamations that were made around his election.
I'm concerned for the second term. There's no re-election, and I think the true progressive socialist will come out.
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Old 01-07-2018, 11:50 AM
 
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No, not really, it about the Fed driving interest rates to zero, and dumping vast amount of cash into the economy. This was all Bernanke, and kept going by Yellen.

Back to Bla, he was handed a city in the best shape it had been in 50-60 years. He's actively tried to reverse the policies that got it that way. Luckily forces beyond his control (the economy, the state government, bureaucratic inertia, etc.) have blunted his attempts. We're stuck with his worthless a$$ in office for the next four years. Hopefully he will continue to be stymied. But given the democratic machine pipeline in NYC, likely his replacement will be equally worthless. Given how most NYer robotically vote for Democrats unless the place is falling apart, until they tear it down again, we're likely stuck with worthless machine Democrats running the place.

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trump has nothing to do with the recovery. The current market is all about acquisitions and mergers and chinese foreign investment

still waiting on that beautiful infrastructure.
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Old 01-07-2018, 12:03 PM
 
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I think some crimes may be underreported. About a year ago someone jimmied open my garage door but didn't take anything. I'm guessing they got scared off by a noise or maybe I put on a light without knowing there was someone breaking into my garage. I called the precinct and they had zero interest in it. The officer said they would come to take a report if I wanted one but since nothing was taken I didn't push it. I asked if they had any interest in following up just to have a record of a burglary in case this was part of a crime spree. The officer said he would forward my name and phone number to the unit that investigates burglaries. No one ever contacted me.
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Old 01-07-2018, 12:07 PM
 
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Nothing? Under Obama we never had 3% GDP growth. NEVER. Trump is slicing regulations, and just passed a tax package. The economy is responding.
Pass an unsustainable tax package that cuts taxes for corporations and of course the economy will respond. Water is wet.
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Old 01-07-2018, 12:19 PM
 
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I asked if they had any interest in following up just to have a record of a burglary in case this was part of a crime spree. The officer said he would forward my name and phone number to the unit that investigates burglaries. No one ever contacted me.
Maybe it wasn't a crime spree and just a one-time incident, so that's why they didn't contact you? Possibly...
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