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Interesting, I wasn't too familiar with the ethnic breakdown of Crown Heights so I didn't know that. Even Bushwick is overwhelmingly nonwhite still, so I think it's silly to assume that only a white person could have called the police in a case like this.
Utica is probably seeing gentrification if anything on the North side of crown heights which is technically the border of Weeksville. But from a Eastern pkwy to Empire Blvd that is straight up Caribbean. There isn’t even one hipster style business and the neighborhood looks literally the same from the moment my best friend moved around there in 2001 except way less crime now!
If this happens on Franklin Ave I might believe his post cause that’s hipster central now!
Utica is probably seeing gentrification if anything on the North side of crown heights which is technically the border of Weeksville. But from a Eastern pkwy to Empire Blvd that is straight up Caribbean. There isn’t even one hipster style business and the neighborhood looks literally the same from the moment my best friend moved around there in 2001 except way less crime now!
If this happens on Franklin Ave I might believe his post cause that’s hipster central now!
I thought it was a chick who made that post? Interestingly, it was made viral by a woman from Grand Rapids, MI who likely knows nothing about NYC.
And I'm not trying to downplay the negative effects of gentrification and I understand why people are frustrated, but I do think that hipsters are overly villified. These people are often into partying and doing drugs, so I doubt they're going to call the police for petty things like the anti-gentrification activists insinuate they do. And honestly, I think Brooklyn is better off with white people like that than the white people in South Brooklyn back in the day who used to chase black people.
I thought it was a chick who made that post? Interestingly, it was made viral by a woman from Grand Rapids, MI who likely knows nothing about NYC.
And I'm not trying to downplay the negative effects of gentrification and I understand why people are frustrated, but I do think that hipsters are overly villified. These people are often into partying and doing drugs, so I doubt they're going to call the police for petty things like the anti-gentrification activists insinuate they do. And honestly, I think Brooklyn is better off with white people like that than the white people in South Brooklyn back in the day who used to chase black people.
South Brooklyn is so far away from where this took place. No white person from South Brooklyn is coming up to Crown Heights to chase black people. That's just silly.
South Brooklyn is so far away from where this took place. No white person from South Brooklyn is coming up to Crown Heights to chase black people. That's just silly.
I never implied that! I said that because the anti-gentrification activists often act like white people moving into North Brooklyn are terrible, but I don't see how they can possibly be worse than the type of people who killed Yusuf Hawkins.
I never implied that! I said that because the anti-gentrification activists often act like white people moving into North Brooklyn are terrible, but I don't see how they can possibly be worse than the type of people who killed Yusuf Hawkins.
That was a very different time period. Back in those days no Ohioan-like white person dared lived on this side of Flatbush av. And if they did they'd be chased out by black kids.
I thought it was a chick who made that post? Interestingly, it was made viral by a woman from Grand Rapids, MI who likely knows nothing about NYC.
And I'm not trying to downplay the negative effects of gentrification and I understand why people are frustrated, but I do think that hipsters are overly villified. These people are often into partying and doing drugs, so I doubt they're going to call the police for petty things like the anti-gentrification activists insinuate they do. And honestly, I think Brooklyn is better off with white people like that than the white people in South Brooklyn back in the day who used to chase black people.
What's calling the police for petty things?
Honestly, yes, people with jobs do indeed call the police for stuff like neighborhood disturbances, and the police tend to take them seriously.
Working professionals tend to be a lot less tolerant of music blasting at all hours of the night, neighbors dumping trash, or other behaviors that are considered antisocial/unacceptable in the mainstream of the United States. The people complaining about white people moving in are first generation Americans used to slum conditions.
Gentrifiers generally work and/or go to school. You seem them as partiers because you're drinking with them, but it's simply a view from the outside.
White people generally aren't so tolerant of people just hanging out on the street in front of buildings, etc. Yes, gentrifiers would call the police on that alone, and the police would respond. To hang out in front of a building you have to prove you live there or you're someone's guest.
I think the other issue is of course non whites from these neighborhoods do indeed call the police, but they get more attention as white people discover a neighborhood. I've seen this first hand in Harlem, Bedstuy, and Jackson Heights. When neighborhoods have no white population, cops aren't as responsive. When more whites are moving in or when real estate interests invest in a neighborhood, the city invests more money in policing and cops respond more.
Obviously gentrifiers are better than gangsters/racists from Bensonhurst.
Vassell had 23 prior arrests, including a 2003 assault for biting his ex-girlfriend's hand and punching her, a 2005 robbery, and a 1999 gang assault. Four other arrests involved gun charges. He had been issued 120 summonses and had a history of mental health interactions, including at least one contact with police where he was described as being emotionally disturbed.
I read the part about assualting his girlfriend. There is truly someone for everyone.
His death is on the family. Or maybe everyone with prior edp episodes should be made to wear an easily identifiable bracelet so cops can identify them on the scene. His family failed him.
The news itself does not give the full story. Was the man receiving any kind of psychiatric care? Had his family taken him to get help? If they did nothing to help him this is one them. But we don't know that.
Honestly, yes, people with jobs do indeed call the police for stuff like neighborhood disturbances, and the police tend to take them seriously.
Working professionals tend to be a lot less tolerant of music blasting at all hours of the night, neighbors dumping trash, or other behaviors that are considered antisocial/unacceptable in the mainstream of the United States. The people complaining about white people moving in are first generation Americans used to slum conditions.
Gentrifiers generally work and/or go to school. You seem them as partiers because you're drinking with them, but it's simply a view from the outside.
White people generally aren't so tolerant of people just hanging out on the street in front of buildings, etc. Yes, gentrifiers would call the police on that alone, and the police would respond. To hang out in front of a building you have to prove you live there or you're someone's guest.
I think the other issue is of course non whites from these neighborhoods do indeed call the police, but they get more attention as white people discover a neighborhood. I've seen this first hand in Harlem, Bedstuy, and Jackson Heights. When neighborhoods have no white population, cops aren't as responsive. When more whites are moving in or when real estate interests invest in a neighborhood, the city invests more money in policing and cops respond more.
Obviously gentrifiers are better than gangsters/racists from Bensonhurst.
A common complaint I see about white gentrifiers from the anti-gentrification activists is that they call the police for non pressing issues, I'm just saying that I don't think there's an epidemic of them moving into black neighborhoods and snitching on everyone.
I shouldn't generalize them as partiers, however I do genuinely believe that actual hipsters would not call the police over people selling drugs or blasting music. I know a lot of these people (I know I don't live in Brooklyn, but similar people exist here too and a lot of them have moved to Brooklyn since high school) and that's just my observation.
But the people considered to be gentrifiers spans from cokehead hipsters to wealthy yuppie types so I guess it varies.
Obviously gentrifiers are better than gangsters/racists from Bensonhurst.
He didn't point out just the small minority of gangsters or racists in Bensonhurst. He pretty much said everyone in South Brooklyn. Pretty much implying that all white people living in Brooklyn during the pre-gentrification era should be replaced by Ohioans whose ancestors actually owned black people as slaves in this country.
He didn't point out just the small minority of gangsters or racists in Bensonhurst. He pretty much said everyone in South Brooklyn. Pretty much implying that all white people living in Brooklyn during the pre-gentrification era should be replaced by Ohioans whose ancestors actually owned black people as slaves in this country.
I did not imply everyone in South Brooklyn was like that, but those people were there. And while slavery had long been abolished in New York, there were some terrible incidents such as when Irish immigrants rioted in the 1860s and burned down a black orphanage.
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