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This recent flood definitely aren't Turks for the most part.
Right, but either way, Germans having pressuring Merkel to address the problems she created. Increase in crime for one...
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Originally Posted by NyWriterdude
Years ago, as I'm sure you know as an Italian, countries like Italy and Spain were countries that people bailed out of in big numbers. As their economies grew, Italy and Spain both really want more people to enter, because for certain aspects of the tourism and real estate industries they use cheap labor. Oh and it's easier to get LEGAL status in Spain and Italy too. Oh but Germany itself has made it easier to get legal status and citizenship.
European nations had falling populations, and if the populations continued to fall there would be some major economic issues on that alone. So they opened themselves up more to immigration. Plus places where people want to move to in numbers tend to have better economies. California and NY in the US are much better off economically than Idaho or Mississippi.
Yeah but that's different. I'm specifically talking about illegal immigration like the people that risk their lives to climb the gates with barbed wire to cross into Spain from Africa or the people that leave Libya in tiny boats to descend upon Malta or Sicily or some other small European island.
Right, but either way, Germans having pressuring Merkel to address the problems she created. Increase in crime for one...
Yeah but that's different. I'm specifically talking about illegal immigration like the people that risk their lives to climb the gates with barbed wire to cross into Spain from Africa or the people that leave Libya in tiny boats to descend upon Malta or Sicily or some other small European island.
It's not that different if you're trying to talk about a comparison to immigration to the US. Pretty significant numbers of people died on their way to the US from those countries, the US at the time was immensely unhappy with it though government was slow to act to stem the tide of the especially swarthy Italians, and once here, people really did not like the Italians. Not one bit--the old newspapers of the time were really funny with that.
The Italians and the Poles streaming in were going to be the embodiment of the terror that the Irish influx had hinted at (though the Italians were swarthier and thus especially hated)--they were going to be the papists that took this country down and everything that this country holds dear. It was going to be the death of liberty, democracy, and this nation.
It's not that different if you're trying to talk about a comparison to immigration to the US. Pretty significant numbers of people died on their way to the US from those countries, the US at the time was immensely unhappy with it though government was slow to act to stem the tide of the especially swarthy Italians, and once here, people really did not like the Italians. Not one bit--the old newspapers of the time were really funny with that.
The Italians and the Poles streaming in were going to be the embodiment of the terror that the Irish influx had hinted at (though the Italians were swarthier and thus especially hated)--they were going to be the papists that took this country down and everything that this country holds dear. It was going to be the death of liberty, democracy, and this nation.
I suppose so, especially if you exclude that European immigration has been only a recent phenomenon.
It’s only been recent that European nations have gotten large numbers of immigrants from all over the world. It really started to happen in the late 80s and took off in the 90s. So just the past 30 years.
Seems more like what is really happening is that many people are leaving NYC for greener pastures and it's decreasing the occupancy rate. Landlords desperate to not have vacant units, lower rent to entice tenants.
no whats happening is that rents outside of Manhattan got crazy high
last year Brooklyn's average rent was higher than Manhattan's, that's downright crazy.
And since most landlords require 48x monthly rent in salary, even a $4,000/mo apartment requires an income of $192K. Now there are a lot of rich people in NYC, but there is a limit to how many there are.
The landlords simply priced themselves out of the market.
I know but it is what it is, at least for now. People do what they gotta do. Met a special ed teacher on the bus who commutes from Cherry Hill to the Bronx! She's working on getting her certifications for NJ, but in the meantime...
Maybe I'll go looking for the text, but from memory, in the rent regulation laws there is a vacancy threshold at which the rent regulations end. It's state law, the City Council can't do anything about it. IIRC the threshold is 4%. It's also based on numbers from the Census Bureau, so again, it isn't up to the city. It's been a non-issue for decades, since the rental market has been so tight. But with all the new construction, no so much any more.
Here ya go! Oh and the number required for ending RS is a 5% residential vacancy rate.
As one previously stated, long as the current left/democratic/progressive mindset inhabits mayor's office, and or dominates city council, RS will not end even if that 5% vacancy rate is reached. Such persons will fight to the mat in order to prevent that from happening.
Again as have said; despite whatever reasons for creation RS has become a de facto "affordable housing" scheme for NYC. Remove it and you'll see waves of homelessness that make today's numbers seem puny by comparison. Much of those affected would be middle-aged, seniors, elderly, along with women with children.
Without RS laws landlords could (and likely would) refuse to automatically renew leases for any tenant with a less than perfect record. Manhattan, parts of west Brooklyn, and other highly desirable areas would see asking rents quickly escalate to market rates as LL's seek to earn profits.
Depending upon contractual terms negotiated with city, all those "affordable" or low income tenants in luxury new buildings could find themselves either out on the streets or faced with huge rent increases.
Best way to end RS is what came out of vacancy decontrol. Let people remain until they die or whatever, then remove the apartment from state control. But you see what has happened with that; so there you are.
It’s only been recent that European nations have gotten large numbers of immigrants from all over the world. It really started to happen in the late 80s and took off in the 90s. So just the past 30 years.
no whats happening is that rents outside of Manhattan got crazy high
last year Brooklyn's average rent was higher than Manhattan's, that's downright crazy.
And since most landlords require 48x monthly rent in salary, even a $4,000/mo apartment requires an income of $192K. Now there are a lot of rich people in NYC, but there is a limit to how many there are.
The landlords simply priced themselves out of the market.
Brooklyn's average rents are skewed by tons of new construction that in many cases offers more for money than Manhattan. Apartments are often larger compared to Manhattan and so forth.
Much of this has to do with land; outside of Hudson Yards and a few other areas you simply don't have large swaths of land to build apartment buildings. So what is built in Manhattan tends to be "skinny" and tall, this of course limits unit size as developers seek to carve out as much money per square foot.
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but it is what it is, at least for now. People do what they gotta do. Met a special ed teacher on the bus who commutes from Cherry Hill to the Bronx! She's working on getting her certifications for NJ, but in the meantime...
