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Old 05-25-2018, 07:17 AM
 
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You don’t know the difference between small government and tougher stance on crime?
Small government means looser laws

Such as the idea that small government means less gun control
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Old 05-25-2018, 07:23 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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Small government means looser laws

Such as the idea that small government means less gun control
You are applying the concept blindly across the board. Something clearly Leftist like to do. Small government means less bureaucracy, lower taxes, less regulations, but this applies only to law abiding citizens and companies. Conservatives actually believes in tougher laws against crime.
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Old 05-25-2018, 07:25 AM
 
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You are applying the concept blindly across the board. Something clearly Leftist like to do. Small government means less bureaucracy, lower taxes, less regulations, but this applies only to law abiding citizens and companies. Conservatives actually believes in tougher laws against crime.
But law enforcement and prisons are a wing of the government, meaning that increased use of these things would mean larger government

Also, Ron Paul is a hardcore right winger and he's against the war on drugs.
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Old 05-25-2018, 07:32 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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But law enforcement and prisons are a wing of the government, meaning that increased use of these things would mean larger government

Also, Ron Paul is a hardcore right winger and he's against the war on drugs.
Using your definition, even a security guard for a government building is considered government and small government means using less or no security guards while big government means using more or many security guards.

Does that even sound right to you?

In case you really don’t see the difference and not just trying to argue politics. Small government means less regulations, lower taxes and have nothing to do with police departments or prisons. Less regulations also does not mean looser enforcement.
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Old 05-25-2018, 07:59 AM
 
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Using your definition, even a security guard for a government building is considered government and small government means using less or no security guards while big government means using more or many security guards.

Does that even sound right to you?

In case you really don’t see the difference and not just trying to argue politics. Small government means less regulations, lower taxes and have nothing to do with police departments or prisons. Less regulations also does not mean looser enforcement.
Regulating what kind of substances people can sell is regulation
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Old 05-25-2018, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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You are applying the concept blindly across the board. Something clearly Leftist like to do. Small government means less bureaucracy, lower taxes, less regulations, but this applies only to law abiding citizens and companies. Conservatives actually believes in tougher laws against crime.
That's what makes conservatives not consistent. They only want small government when it comes to economics, and even then only for certain industries.
Telling adults what to put in their bodies is not small government, whether its weed or big gulp soda. The drug industry has too many regulations and should be de-regulated, ditto for FDA approvals and new trials of drugs. It shouldn't take literally billions of dollars for a company to get all of the certifications to bring a drug to the market. There should be no "Schedule" drugs as, among other things, it restricts research on them. DEA should be disbanded, it is a lobbying arm of the cartels. 23andme shouldn't hide YOUR OWN medical DNA information from YOU either just because FDA classifies it as research and not medical advise or whatever. Regulating abortions is not small government either, nor is regulating stem cell research, nor is telling someone who they can or can't marry. Trump tariffs are not small government either. Restricted immigration is not small government as well (actually capitalism encourages free movement of people and competition in the labor market, its good for businesses hiring people), etc etc.
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Old 05-25-2018, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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There were plenty of drugs in Queens THEN. This news shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone...
I know drugs were a huge problem in the late 80's early 90's but word was (at least until recently) that the area was vastly improving and that drugs and all the rampant drug/gang activity was on it's way out. Guess it's on it's way back. Or never really left in the first place.
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Old 05-25-2018, 09:57 AM
 
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Nine reputed members of two Queens-based street gangs busted for dealing drugs & guns - QNS.com

"Authorities also recovered heroin laced with Fentanyl — the potent, synthetic painkiller that has contributed to the opioid crisis gripping Queens and the United States."

I wasn't aware there was an opioid crisis in Queens. Thought it was only Staten Island. A lot of things have been happening in Queens lately. A lot of drug busts.
Wherever humans inhabit, there will be some sort of crisis.

Meh.

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Old 05-25-2018, 10:03 AM
 
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I know drugs were a huge problem in the late 80's early 90's but word was (at least until recently) that the area was vastly improving and that drugs and all the rampant drug/gang activity was on it's way out. Guess it's on it's way back. Or never really left in the first place.
There is heroin everywhere, and I suspect it's been like that for a long time
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Old 05-25-2018, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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Aren't conservatives supposed to believe in small government?
More so federal government. We want most decision-making made at the local level, then city, then state. Federal government is needed for certain coordination efforts so local and state governments can work together effectively and efficiently on the decisions the decisions local and state governments made independently of one another.
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