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Positive: Forest Hills Gardens, Fieldston (Riverdale)
Negative: East New York, Morrisana
Here's another one -
Positive: Westchester, Bergen. Rockland
Negative: Hudson, Nassau, Orange, Suffolk
I like grit and dive bars, the next might like rooftops and yuppie type establishments. I like hole in the walls, the next might like Chipotle. I like studios, the next might like mansions. It's more of a personal assessment than a quantitative one of the area.
Positive: Forest Hills Gardens, Fieldston (Riverdale)
Negative: East New York, Morrisana
Here's another one -
Positive: Westchester, Bergen. Rockland
Negative: Hudson, Nassau, Orange, Suffolk
I like grit and dive bars, the next might like rooftops and yuppie type establishments. I like hole in the walls, the next might like Chipotle. I like studios, the next might like mansions. It's more of a personal assessment than a quantitative one of the area.
I like Cypress Hills but the rest of ENY I find to be depressing.
In the top Positive Pile,Lenox Hill/Turtle Bay/Midtown East/Lower UES , I would certainly add Carnegie Hill.
Chelsea? How can you beat all those beautiful bulging men on Seventh and Eighth Avenue on a Sunday afternoon?
You must live in a dream world, that or know a different Chelsea than rest of us.
Weekday or weekend afternoons see mostly middle-aged to elderly gay men in Chelsea (and this incudes 8th and 7th avenues) by a large majority. And the only "bulges" are their bellies.
Yes, there are some young guys down there (gay or straight), but by and large the "hot" or whatever men you are describing are found north of Chelsea in Hell's Kitchen. That and or even parts of Astoria or elsewhere.
Much of West Village and Chelsea gay wise resembles those areas in general; wealthy to upper class gays (with or without children), and or those lower down on the socio-economic scale including aging disco queens with bad dye jobs of what is left of their hair.
You must live in a dream world, that or know a different Chelsea than rest of us.
Weekday or weekend afternoons see mostly middle-aged to elderly gay men in Chelsea (and this incudes 8th and 7th avenues) by a large majority. And the only "bulges" are their bellies.
Yes, there are some young guys down there (gay or straight), but by and large the "hot" or whatever men you are describing are found north of Chelsea in Hell's Kitchen. That and or even parts of Astoria or elsewhere.
Much of West Village and Chelsea gay wise resembles those areas in general; wealthy to upper class gays (with or without children), and or those lower down on the socio-economic scale including aging disco queens with bad dye jobs of what is left of their hair.
The older guys aren’t commonly obese or pot-bellied, though certainly people there seem to swing on the older as in 40s and up.
Chelsea’s quite nice overall except for when the tourists get to be a bit much around certain parts like the Whitney.
The older guys aren’t commonly obese or pot-bellied, though certainly people there seem to swing on the older as in 40s and up.
Chelsea’s quite nice overall except for when the tourists get to be a bit much around certain parts like the Whitney.
I'm not talking about commonly, just what one has observed being down in Chelsea on average once or twice a week.
Much of the "pot belly" going around down there seems to be what commonly happens to guys that once were very muscular but let themselves go. This and or having or still using steroids.
Case in point:
While yes (again) there still plenty of gays (young) in Chelsea, Hell's Kitchen beats that place in terms of "hot buffed/muscular" gay male action.
After a quick read I somewhat agree with the assessment. You'll offend people with the Euro trash comment but it's funny because that used to be a common slur and they used to be much more prevalent in the 90s and now there's a resurgence again.
West Village began changing due to the HIV/Aids epidemic. In the decades after 1980's many younger gays and others moved on to Chelsea in part to get away from bad memories I suppose.
The gays leaving sort of left a void, it was soon filled by less savory elements, but slowly things began to pick up. Then came 9/11/01 which killed downtown from Financial District right up through WV.
It took a while, but not long as some thought for Tribeca, Soho, Wall Street and even WV to get back in their stride. What helped was and still is the shift of money (especially young or new) from uptown to Chelsea and areas south.
Bloomberg saving the High Line (after Rudy G. gave the ok for demolition) is what killed off much of what was left of "old" WV and Chelsea.
One of the reasons you don't see so many "hot/buffed" or whatever young gay men down there is that Chelsea/WV has become a very expensive place to live. Meanwhile until the whole Hudson Yards/Far West Side thing picked up steam Hell's Kitchen offered reasonably (for Manhattan anyway) priced housing.
It is like someone already said; Greenwich Village is mostly all NYU and money. West Village is just money! *LOL*
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