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Old 07-21-2023, 10:41 PM
 
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Old 07-22-2023, 02:57 AM
 
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Shhhh. Don’t tell those charging their cars overnight. Let’s see the shock as the price goes up every year if not every month as more Evs are sold.
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Old 07-22-2023, 05:46 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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NY stupidly followed California’s lead and upped the bar by closing Indian Point before building out “renewable” sources. You get what you vote for. Electric cars have nothing to do with this, but will be the scapegoat to ensure voters remain dumb to what the politicians are doing.
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Old 07-22-2023, 07:47 AM
 
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Shhhh. Don’t tell those charging their cars overnight. Let’s see the shock as the price goes up every year if not every month as more Evs are sold.
People are not dumb. They can figure it out when they see their ConEd bill BEFORE shopping for an EV.
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Old 07-22-2023, 08:52 AM
 
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Please my Con Ed bill has been more for months. Now it will be even more. Yipppie
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Old 07-23-2023, 05:36 AM
 
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Friends and family from Jersey crack on me all the time because their electric bills for private homes (some quite large) are lower than for an apartment in NYC.

One thing all family and friends who moved from SI to NJ noticed off the bat was how much lower their electricity bills were, this even in summer with AC going much of the time.

Don't know how much more people in city can take. In 2019, the average residential bill at 300 kWh was $65.42, and in 2022, it was $84.10.

With this summer of near constant state of moistness and or heat people are running AC more which is starting to hit them in wallet as first bills for season are arriving.

Working from home is all very well but people are also realizing that means they are often using more juice (AC, computer, devices, maybe heat if they pay their own bill) because are not out at office five days per week for 8-10 hours (factoring in commute time).

With more and more new construction for multi-family going with residents paying for their own heat/hot water (electric) along with perhaps AC these ever increasing rates are going to hit home.
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Old 07-23-2023, 06:25 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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NJ didn’t blindly follow CA. Cuomo screwed you guys royally.

My bill this month was $189. My AC never goes above 70 and my Tesla only charges at home.
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Old 07-23-2023, 06:45 AM
 
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NJ didn’t blindly follow CA. Cuomo screwed you guys royally.

My bill this month was $189. My AC never goes above 70 and my Tesla only charges at home.
Meh
That's just cause you're closer to the action
Your energy no longer has to travel over bodies of water to get to you

I wonder which borough has the cheapest electricity rates
My guess is the Bronx

Maybe in hindsight, it might have not been such a good idea to have a nuclear power plant that close to an island city of over 8 million people? Everybody talks about closing it down, but people mostly lived around there because they got tax benefits. I don't think many people would be too enticed to live close to a nuclear power plant unless some incentive was involved.

The federal minimum distance (last I checked) for any development around a nuclear plant was 50 miles. I think they updated it throughout the years, but I'm not sure. Maybe at one time it used to be closer.

I think green energy is a good thing, and technology always gets better. Gotta have a Plan B, oil is not an infinite resource, unless we don't care about future generations. They can expand on the technology as well. Disturbing the Earth never goes well.

Truth be told - look at the EV industry, the cars are getting larger and faster. They'll figure it out. Everything you're seeing right now is the Beta version. In another 10 years, you'll probably have the equivalent of what was happening to cars during the early 2000s. More reliable and more options.

I'm just waiting for Apple, Samsung, LG, Microsoft, the likes of those - to start making cars.
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Old 07-23-2023, 07:06 AM
 
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Well, it sounds like you’re ok with NY’s exorbitant energy rates then. That’s good since you have to pay them. Stupid policy decisions have consequences and constantly making excuses for them does nothing for consumers’ bank accounts.
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Old 07-23-2023, 07:08 AM
 
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Well, it sounds like you’re ok with NY’s exorbitant energy rates then. That’s good since you have to pay them. Stupid policy decisions have consequences and constantly making excuses for them does nothing for consumers’ bank accounts.
I live on an island
How cheap do you expect my delivery rates to be?
Actually I'm an anomaly because I'm in NYC but I'm not on ConEd. I'm actually PSEG. But Queens and Brooklyn are still part of Long Island.

Check out Staten Island's electricity situation:
https://www.silive.com/specialreport...ten_islan.html
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