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What would you like to see done with closed Catholic schools in your areas ? New apartments, schools or have them remain as Churches for other denominations ?
What would you like to see done with closed Catholic schools in your areas ? New apartments, schools or have them remain as Churches for other denominations ?
One Catholic school that closed around my way is now a charter school.
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What would you like to see done with closed Catholic schools in your areas ? New apartments, schools or have them remain as Churches for other denominations ?
My opinion.
Families are not sending children to Catholic schools.
This is unfortunate and the child's education will ultimately suffer.
The church needs revenue to survive. I suggest that the church
Rent out to charter and keep some classes for religious instruction.
What would you like to see done with closed Catholic schools in your areas ? New apartments, schools or have them remain as Churches for other denominations ?
I know my daughter's charter school was looking to buy or lease a space from the Archdiocese but they refused. NYC schools are in desperate need of space. They should sell them to the city.
My opinion.
Families are not sending children to Catholic schools.
This is unfortunate and the child's education will ultimately suffer.
The church needs revenue to survive. I suggest that the church
Rent out to charter and keep some classes for religious instruction.
And since so many people on this forum like to rag on public schools.
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After accounting for socioeconomic status, race, and other demographic differences among students, the researchers found that public school math achievement equaled or outstripped math achievement at every type of private school in grades 4 and 8 on NAEP. The advantage was as large as 12 score points on a scale of 0 to 500 (or more than one full grade level) when the authors compared public school students with demographically similar 4th graders in conservative Christian schools.
The Lubienskis also used NAEP data to conclude that regular public schools outperformed independently operated, publicly funded charter schools in 4th grade math and equaled them in 8th grade math.
Finally, the Lubienskis used their longitudinal data to find that public school students started kindergarten with lower math achievement than demographically similar private school peers. By the time they reached the 5th grade, however, they were outperforming those same peers in the subject.
My opinion.
Families are not sending children to Catholic schools.
This is unfortunate and the child's education will ultimately suffer.
The church needs revenue to survive. I suggest that the church
Rent out to charter and keep some classes for religious instruction.
This is not wholly true.
Out in Staten Island, Brooklyn, Queens and so forth parents are still sending children to Catholic schools, but things on ground vary by parish.
In places that still have enough of a strong middle to wealthy households (see parts of SI) the schools are bursting.
OTOH what has increasingly happened to many other Catholic schools is same as the parish; that is the large numbers of Irish, Italian, German, Polish and other Europeans have moved away; this and or send their kids to public school. What you have attending Catholic schools in these areas are large numbers of blacks, Latino-Hispanic and other minorities. Some are RC, but a majority aren't, but their parents see RC education as a low cost alternative to private schools.
That is the problem. For ages now many parishes and even the archdiocese has been propping up these RC schools financially, but that is no longer the case.
OTOH the vast numbers of Latino-Hispanic immigrants (legal or not) have been a boon to RC parishes all over the USA. They replaced the large numbers of Europeans who moved away and or died. However the new arrivals do not have (on average) the incomes to pay tuition and or donate to the church/parish to keep things going.
Before the New York Archdiocese began latest round of school and parish closures it released various studies. In many schools nearly half or more of the students were on scholarship and or receiving some sort of financial aid because their parents couldn't afford to pay. Even more troubling was the high numbers of students who weren't even Catholic.
NYAD announced long ago that their realignment plans were basically to close churches, merge parishes, close schools, etc... in NYC and concentrate on the areas where there were still active and financially viable parishes/schools. Outside of few areas in NYC this means Westchester and other suburbs covered by the NYAD, which by the way are where many of the white/European Catholics fled when they left the city.
Meanwhile back at the ranch the RC faces the same issues with all its institutions; hospitals, schools, colleges, etc.... the lack of sisters, brothers, priests, nuns.... who once ran and or at least heavily staffed the places.
Dedicated servants do not cost very much, but when hospitals had to hire nurses who weren't nuns, well that lay staff increasingly wanted "market rate" wages. Ditto for Catholic schools; lay teachers increasingly wanted pay and bennies that matched what they can get elsewhere.
One Catholic school that closed around my way is now a charter school.
NYC made a deal with NYAD to get the former Saint Peter's Girls school on SI. City also just did a deal to get Saint John's Villa girl's school on the Rock as well.
City was offered Saint Agnes on UWS (at a very good price), but didn't take it; so now that place is becoming luxury housing.
What would you like to see done with closed Catholic schools in your areas ? New apartments, schools or have them remain as Churches for other denominations ?
All of the church's real estate should be confiscated in order to pay the countless thousands of victims of the priest's sexual abuses. In Boston they had to sell almost everything. Even the cardinal had to sell his mansion and move into a room behind the cathedral.
Last edited by bluedog2; 09-20-2018 at 03:23 AM..
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