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Old 06-22-2019, 11:04 PM
 
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The Rockaways have been an enigma to me.
I can split it into 3 parts.
1)The Irish Riviera ( exclusive )
2) The Projects and Apartments
3) The Jewish Section (residential)

West Side
Absolutely gorgeous.
I love the Munster House and the Wedding Cake House.
I drive down to the Irish Riviera for gorgeous views of homes.
Great for snow birds.

116st Train Station and surroundings.
Working Class folks,shopping ,dining and
beautiful beaches. Social Security Office,
Funky Nursing Homes, couple of sandwich shops
and some surf spots nearby 90's.
You could walk down the street of beautiful homes
turn the corner and you feel like you are in the ghetto.
It was that way back in the 70's and it is still the same today.

Further east you go, dicey dog park, homes,stretches
of land where homes once stood, dilapidated elevated train route
is a mix of dumpy water logged roads followed by mix of apartments,bungalows
single family, businesses until you enter the more expensive jewish communities.

Since Sandy more revitalization of homes ,roads and million dollar
beach front properties resulting in less of a ghetto feel in some spots.

I love the 90's at the beach. Arverne Homes are my favorite. Beautiful.
Met a friend, walked the beautiful boardwalk ,Hit the Stop & Shop on the way home
and McDonalds for coffee off the bridge entrance.

The Rockaways is an investors dream.
My best days are behind me but for you young kids, invest your money today
and watch it turn to gold 30 years from now while I'm 6 feet under.



Well, that investment might well get washed away by the next hurricane "Randy" long before it turns to gold...people just prefer to forget...rockways are pretty but i would build bungalows there, which I can afford to lose when the ocean gets angry once in a while.
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Old 06-24-2019, 09:17 AM
 
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In an ideal world that would be cool but those stops on the Rockaway Park branch have among the lowest ridership in the system.
care to venture a guess as to why that might be the case?
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Old 06-24-2019, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Gods country
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Well, that investment might well get washed away by the next hurricane "Randy" long before it turns to gold...people just prefer to forget...rockways are pretty but i would build bungalows there, which I can afford to lose when the ocean gets angry once in a while.
I was thinking the same. I wouldn’t buy in the Rockaways for the same reason I wouldn’t buy in Florida, hurricanes....
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Old 06-24-2019, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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I wonder how Breezy Point is doing after the last hurricane.
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Old 06-24-2019, 10:06 AM
 
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Well, there are four tracks for A and C service up until the Euclid Avenue stop, so if you want to run current service levels but with that pattern, you're going to have do some building.

If the end goal is to have faster or simply more service to the Rockaways, then there are various proposals to revive parts of the currently abandoned Rockaway Beach Branch line. That'd be pretty neat. There's a lot of opposition from areas near the tracks such as its pathway through Forest Park. It's more expensive, but maybe the way to throw a bone to them, and not too bad since the areas are overgrown and need to be cleared and the existing track needs to be replaced anyhow, is to try to pony up to do cut and cover for at least portions of the track in order to quell the nimby response a bit.
The MTA refused to release the study results.

So I doubt it will make the 2020-2024 capital budget.

Rockaway Beach activation is not happening anytime soon.
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Old 06-24-2019, 10:17 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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The MTA refused to release the study results.

So I doubt it will make the 2020-2024 capital budget.

Rockaway Beach activation is not happening anytime soon.
Yea, but it's probably still a better idea than spending funds to four-track past Euclid Avenue. I mean, there's that rumored 76th street station it can run into, right? Give us that.
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Old 06-24-2019, 11:59 AM
 
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I don't know. I think she had to transfer twice or something. Maybe, I'm getting her commute confused with the one that was coming from S.I. Now, you have me curious. I'm going to look it up. I'm shocked it only takes you one hr to get to downtown Manhattan. The one time I visited from Queens, I remember the commute being really long & boring. I was going out of my mind. But maybe your perspective is different when you're a teen.
Yes, that commute to Stuy was a nightmare (original location). You had to transfer to the very unsafe, Carnarsie Line which used the oldest cars that kept breaking down. The conductor would have to manually open each door on the train. This was during the days of double fare to Rockaway.
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Old 06-24-2019, 12:02 PM
 
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If you don't have to switch at Broad Channel the A to downtown is not terrible. If you're coming from points west of the CBB and have to switch trains it obviously adds time. And if you're going to midtown from either end of the peninsula via the A train it's not ideal. Most people I know from "uptown" either just drive into Manhattan, drive to Sheepshead and take the B, or drive to the junction and take the 5.
Yes, and sometimes you had to transfer at Euclid Ave. and at Broad Channel. The ride took forever.
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Old 06-24-2019, 12:08 PM
 
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The Rockaways have been an enigma to me.
I can split it into 3 parts.
1)The Irish Riviera ( exclusive )
2) The Projects and Apartments
3) The Jewish Section (residential)

West Side
Absolutely gorgeous.
I love the Munster House and the Wedding Cake House.
I drive down to the Irish Riviera for gorgeous views of homes.
Great for snow birds.

116st Train Station and surroundings.
Working Class folks,shopping ,dining and
beautiful beaches. Social Security Office,
Funky Nursing Homes, couple of sandwich shops
and some surf spots nearby 90's.
You could walk down the street of beautiful homes
turn the corner and you feel like you are in the ghetto.
It was that way back in the 70's and it is still the same today.

Further east you go, dicey dog park, homes,stretches
of land where homes once stood, dilapidated elevated train route
is a mix of dumpy water logged roads followed by mix of apartments,bungalows
single family, businesses until you enter the more expensive jewish communities.

Since Sandy more revitalization of homes ,roads and million dollar
beach front properties resulting in less of a ghetto feel in some spots.

I love the 90's at the beach. Arverne Homes are my favorite. Beautiful.
Met a friend, walked the beautiful boardwalk ,Hit the Stop & Shop on the way home
and McDonalds for coffee off the bridge entrance.

The Rockaways is an investors dream.
My best days are behind me but for you young kids, invest your money today
and watch it turn to gold 30 years from now while I'm 6 feet under.

I remember when they built that McDonalds. It was a big deal. We didn't have any fast food type of places on the peninsula and restaurants were very limited. Few restaurants lasted beyond a summer or two. The Irish section (approximately 90th-116th street) was called Shantytown. Breezy and Roxbury were off-limits to outsiders and of course, there was Fort Tilden.
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Old 06-24-2019, 04:48 PM
 
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care to venture a guess as to why that might be the case?
I don't have to guess. It's because not that many people live in the area number one, and number two, most people living there either drive or take the bus/train into Brooklyn. At Beach 105th Street for example, the surrounding area is pretty much composed of only 4 or 5 tall residential buildings, and a few blocks of residential homes. So that's not enough to warrant a 24-7 service directly from 207th Street - Inwood. Since the Q53 SBS and the ferry opened, that leads to even less people needing to take the A train.
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