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Old 11-23-2019, 05:22 AM
 
Location: Manhattan, NYC
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Because Kansas is the new Datacenter mecca in the south. There are tons of tech companies all moving there due to cheap taxes, housing, and plenty of space.



If you walk around NYC, what do you see? Well I saw atleast 20+ construction workers, homeless people, random potsmokers standing around. Most of the smart tech workers like Indian folks mostly live in NJ.

Not to mention NJ has the best Ivy League school in the country. That is Princeton U.
Above Harvard or Yale? Hmm, sounds a bit subjective...
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Old 11-23-2019, 06:34 AM
 
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Since it's very easy to get a degree these days, I'm not sure how indicative that is of intelligence. I would be curious to see how these combine with income.

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If you walk around NYC, what do you see? Well I saw atleast 20+ construction workers, homeless people, random potsmokers standing around. Most of the smart tech workers like Indian folks mostly live in NJ.

Not to mention NJ has the best Ivy League school in the country. That is Princeton U.
You're also ignoring the rest of the state of New York, which is a mixed bag in terms of education. But there is also Cornell for those upstate.
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Old 11-23-2019, 07:32 AM
 
Location: NY
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So the knucklehead Network Developer calls me to the house to drive a nail into his
wall to hang his Diplomas. Charge $400 dollars. The look on his face? Priceless......................
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Old 11-23-2019, 08:53 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Since it's very easy to get a degree these days, I'm not sure how indicative that is of intelligence. I would be curious to see how these combine with income.

You're also ignoring the rest of the state of New York, which is a mixed bag in terms of education. But there is also Cornell for those upstate.
I think the stats tells us that smarter people don't usually stay in NY for long. It may have some of the most prestigious schools but alot of those students are out of state.

Millionaires are leaving and educated smart grads lured to other states.

NJ has a large concentration of pharmaceutical and biotech companies. You have to be very educated to get into these places compare to a tech company in NYC.
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Old 11-23-2019, 08:55 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Above Harvard or Yale? Hmm, sounds a bit subjective...
https://www.usnews.com/education/bes...league-schools

Princeton has been #1 for a while. This is not new.
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Old 11-23-2019, 08:03 PM
 
Location: NYC
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I'm not sure why this is surprising. New Jersey is basically one giant suburb for Manhattan. The while collar workers with money move out there for bigger houses and better public schools. NYC is filled with recent immigrants who pull down the average educational level.
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Old 11-23-2019, 08:24 PM
 
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Apparently NJ has the highest percentage of college grads, and percentage of people with STEM Degrees and call themselves something like Scientist or engineer.

I dont think that means anything. The fact that one can simply buy their way into the said institution is an indication that is possible to buy the accolades from said Unis as well.

Merit is not always the case. It may even be a rare occasion. So having the title of scientist or engineer dont mean jack. You prove it by showing your work in which you were an indispensable part of.

Plus NJ has lots of rich people and they are known for buying their kids accolades. Take Jared Kushner, we all know about him and Harvard. And now he is a mighty politician.
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Old 11-23-2019, 08:25 PM
 
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I'm not sure why this is surprising. New Jersey is basically one giant suburb for Manhattan. The while collar workers with money move out there for bigger houses and better public schools. NYC is filled with recent immigrants who pull down the average educational level.
Yeh this too.

But then Long Island and Westchester is in same boat.
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Old 11-23-2019, 08:31 PM
 
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Since it's very easy to get a degree these days, I'm not sure how indicative that is of intelligence. I would be curious to see how these combine with income.

You're also ignoring the rest of the state of New York, which is a mixed bag in terms of education. But there is also Cornell for those upstate.
Degree usually correlates with generational wealth. So many who are degreed come from middle class or above, and will have connections to keep that level of income

Upstate has Rennsalaer, Rochester.

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I think the stats tells us that smarter people don't usually stay in NY for long. It may have some of the most prestigious schools but alot of those students are out of state.

Millionaires are leaving and educated smart grads lured to other states.

NJ has a large concentration of pharmaceutical and biotech companies. You have to be very educated to get into these places compare to a tech company in NYC.
I always here about this biotech, and pharma companies. But are these particular companies on the cutting edge of their science or just there for the ride? If they on the cutting edge great, if not, then just a bunch of paper pushers.

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https://www.usnews.com/education/bes...league-schools

Princeton has been #1 for a while. This is not new.
Is US News the authority on this matter?
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Old 11-23-2019, 08:42 PM
 
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Hahaha The poster acts like a NY-er when it suits him and claims NJ when it suits him
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