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Old 12-27-2019, 03:03 PM
 
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This is on the 7 line.

https://sunnysidepost.com/slab-of-co...j9l8mPYwg8Cnn8

A slab of concrete fell from the 52nd Street subway station Monday and almost killed a man who was climbing the stairs to get on the platform, according to a stunned straphanger who witnessed the near-miss.

Jason Zhang, the passenger who witnessed the incident, saw a chunk of concrete fall off the wall on the stairwell at around 8 a.m. as a train had just entered the station. He said it almost hit a passenger who was heading up the stairs.

“The train was pulling in and the movement and shaking [of the platform] caused the debris to fall,” Zhang said. “It almost hit someone.”

A spokesperson for the MTA said the agency was aware of the incident. The MTA was alerted to it by an employee who noticed the shattered chunks of concrete on the stairwell.

Donovan added that the station is slated for an overhaul—along with the 61st Street, 69th Street, 82nd Street, 103rd Street and 111th Street stations. The MTA is in the design phase and a contract is expected to be awarded this summer.

The 52nd Street station is arguably the worst station of the 467-station subway system.

The Citizens Budget Commission back in 2015 noted that it was the worst station in the system—with 79 percent of its structural components—defined as stairs, platform edges, ventilators and more– not in a state of good repair.
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Old 12-27-2019, 03:18 PM
 
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Damn. The city's falling apart.
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Old 12-27-2019, 04:42 PM
 
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Maybe it's time to dig a subway to replace the old, decrepit el line?
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Old 12-27-2019, 09:15 PM
 
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Maybe it's time to dig a subway to replace the old, decrepit el line?
That should have happened decades ago. But look how long it's taking them to do the Second Avenue Subway. Phase II is just three more stations. I cannot see a subway replacing the 7 train until the entire Second Avenue Subway is built the full length of Manhattan (there was the old, decreipt 3rd and 2nd avenue els, which the Second Avenue Subway is replacing).
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Old 12-28-2019, 08:44 AM
 
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Wow. I take that station regularly to visit my friends in the area and had no idea it was designated as the station in the worst state of repair. I realize it’s going to be overhauled soon but as long as it’s open the MTA needs to stabilize it so no one gets hurt.
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Old 12-28-2019, 09:02 AM
 
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Maybe it's time to dig a subway to replace the old, decrepit el line?
Which one is really cheaper to maintain - els or subways?
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Old 12-28-2019, 09:06 AM
 
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Wow. I take that station regularly to visit my friends in the area and had no idea it was designated as the station in the worst state of repair. I realize it’s going to be overhauled soon but as long as it’s open the MTA needs to stabilize it so no one gets hurt.
Seriously. That guy who almost got hit. Wow. Way too close for comfort especially on the heels of someone actually dying from fallen concrete.
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Old 12-28-2019, 07:29 PM
 
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They've been "maintaining" it for nearly a century. The fact that it's raining debris on anything below it doesn't say much for the MTA''s maintenance capability. The thing needs to be replaced. And no one is building a new el.

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Which one is really cheaper to maintain - els or subways?
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Old 12-28-2019, 09:17 PM
 
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They've been "maintaining" it for nearly a century. The fact that it's raining debris on anything below it doesn't say much for the MTA''s maintenance capability. The thing needs to be replaced. And no one is building a new el.

It's funny because it isn't true!

MTA only took over NYCTA in 1970: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Yo...nsit_Authority

Things really didn't get going until MTA poured huge amounts of borrowed and taxpayer money into subways, bridges and tunnels starting around 1980's. This was to reverse decades of neglect and deferred maintenance from NYCTA, City of New York and private owners who previously ran things.

Am rather shocked at your comments since you were there, and know fully well state of subways, buses, and bridges in 1960's through 1970's. East River bridges were literally falling apart for god sake. So much so trains had to crawl across and turtle speed, and even then bits rained down below.

Yes, large parts of NYC subway system are one hundred (or more at this point) years old; but MTA neither built nor was responsible for them until it took over.
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Old 12-28-2019, 11:41 PM
 
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They've been "maintaining" it for nearly a century. The fact that it's raining debris on anything below it doesn't say much for the MTA''s maintenance capability. The thing needs to be replaced. And no one is building a new el.
Airtrain to JFK is an el, and Airtrain to LGA, soon to be built is an el. Outer boroughs at this point don't get new subways. The Metro-North to Penn Station will use Amtrak tracks that are underutilized. If the Rockaway Beach LIRR reactivation happens, it's using old LIRR tracks that will connect to the Queens Blvd line.

The Second Avenue Subway is consuming huge amounts of money until it is built the full length of Manhattan no chance for outer-borough subways.
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