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Old 09-09-2020, 04:43 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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This was poorly planned and was supposed to be temporary, so yes, move them out. There are already 10 homeless shelters there, so plenty of homeless there. The difference is those homeless people have a support system. The latest ones did not...
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Old 09-09-2020, 04:59 AM
 
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For some local residents, this is too little late as they have already sold their homes in the area and are in the process of moving out of NYC.
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Old 09-09-2020, 05:24 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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For some local residents, this is too little late as they have already sold their homes in the area and are in the process of moving out of NYC.
Agreed, but I applaud the ones that are staying and fighting. What the City has done is a disgrace, and something they are trying to do across the City, which is dump homeless people in hotels without any notice and then claim that everything will be just fine, when many of these people have mental illnesses and drug abuse problems, with absolutely no support system.

You've got people urinating and defecating right in public view (saw a video of a woman doing just that yesterday). Kids and families walking by. Drug deals out in the open. Horrible... Not to mention how much dirtier the streets have become. The Upper West Side was always dirty in some parts, but now, you couldn't pay me to shop over there. I'm on the Upper East Side until this mess blows over.
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Old 09-09-2020, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York, United States
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All this means is that the city will keep shuffling them around until a spot is found that keeps them hidden enough to avoid a next neighborhood from complaining.
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Old 09-09-2020, 07:42 AM
 
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This was poorly planned and was supposed to be temporary, so yes, move them out. There are already 10 homeless shelters there, so plenty of homeless there. The difference is those homeless people have a support system. The latest ones did not...
Why are you concerned about only this situation on the upper west side? All homeless people are just placed anywhere and don't have the support system. yet I never see you all up in arms about all the homeless people placed in areas in the South Bronx or Brooklyn
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Old 09-09-2020, 07:43 AM
 
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For some local residents, this is too little late as they have already sold their homes in the area and are in the process of moving out of NYC.
Good let them move and get the h3ll out of here. They don't own the city and can't dictate who can live in a certain neighborhood. Bunch of bougie *ss people.
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Old 09-09-2020, 08:01 AM
 
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Are people really saying that if the city moved a building full of loitering, urinating, drug dealing, panhandling mentally ill men onto their street that they would not complain?!

Haha. That's believable. And if you wouldn't complain, I guess you think that kind of anti-social/dangerous behavior is ok to live next to.

You better bet I would complain and start mobilizing my neighbors if the same thing happened to my block.
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Old 09-09-2020, 09:03 AM
 
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Why are you concerned about only this situation on the upper west side? All homeless people are just placed anywhere and don't have the support system. yet I never see you all up in arms about all the homeless people placed in areas in the South Bronx or Brooklyn
I don't recall seeing posts from the residents of the South Bronx or Brooklyn complaining about the homeless being imported into their neighborhoods. Every neighborhood in NYC expects to absorb their own homeless population. It becomes an issue when homeless (including mentally ill, addicts, sex offenders) are shipped in from elsewhere, and in numbers too large to absorb, control, or help.
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Old 09-09-2020, 09:33 AM
 
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I don't recall seeing posts from the residents of the South Bronx or Brooklyn complaining about the homeless being imported into their neighborhoods. Every neighborhood in NYC expects to absorb their own homeless population. It becomes an issue when homeless (including mentally ill, addicts, sex offenders) are shipped in from elsewhere, and in numbers too large to absorb, control, or help.
A lot of communities protest when suddenly what was a hotel in their neighborhood is now a homeless shelter. Here's an example: https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...icle-1.1851284 (from Elmhurst Queens)

I think the possible difference is that, from my understanding, the UWS hotels were filled with single male sex offenders or the mentally ill, etc. whereas the shelter in Queens I posted above was for families.

I don't think anyone wants homeless shelters appearing in their neighborhood but it does make a big difference if the population is out on the street urinating/defecating and dealing drugs vs. families whose concern is more about how to get their kid fed and to school on time.
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Old 09-09-2020, 09:59 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Why are you concerned about only this situation on the upper west side? All homeless people are just placed anywhere and don't have the support system. yet I never see you all up in arms about all the homeless people placed in areas in the South Bronx or Brooklyn
That is simply not true. The Upper West Side has about 10 homeless shelters and the situation was manageable and has been for years. It has only spiraled out of control when they dumped hundreds of homeless people on the UWS overnight.

I'm concerned about it because I frequently the area that's why.
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