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Old 12-19-2020, 12:45 PM
 
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Really...no city in the Midwest has over a million people besides Chicago. That's why I said populace.
Maybe I don't understand the word populace, but of course there's no cities that have the same climate and population that NYC has, as NYC is the largest city on the USA.

If you go by MSAs, there are quite a few in the millions, St Paul, Indianapolis, Philadelphia, and they're all significantly lower taxed than NYC
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Old 12-19-2020, 01:46 PM
 
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Really...no city in the Midwest has over a million people besides Chicago. That's why I said populace.
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Maybe I don't understand the word populace, but of course there's no cities that have the same climate and population that NYC has, as NYC is the largest city on the USA.
No, Johnnytang, it's SeventhFloor who doesn't understand the word populace, which merely means the people living in a particular area, not the amount of people.

And basically every other major city in the country is more tax-friendly than NYC is.

I can't believe anyone is defending the way NYC is being run!
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Old 12-19-2020, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Lower East Side, NYC
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Meh, just compare NYC to London. The next step would be Tokyo, Hong Kong, and I think Paris (might be wrong there). Maybe go by the term metropolis or megalopolis or whatever. Some of the 'cities' we consider in the US are just a collection of annexed suburbs imo (looking at Houston as the worst offender) or grossly overhyped (Atlanta sucks to me having been there and it has a little less than 500k people...). NYC is being poorly run regardless though. You can't replicate the NYC experience elsewhere in the US, if the NYC experience wasn't dead right now.
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Old 12-19-2020, 08:36 PM
 
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Meh, just compare NYC to London. The next step would be Tokyo, Hong Kong, and I think Paris (might be wrong there). Maybe go by the term metropolis or megalopolis or whatever. Some of the 'cities' we consider in the US are just a collection of annexed suburbs imo (looking at Houston as the worst offender) or grossly overhyped (Atlanta sucks to me having been there and it has a little less than 500k people...). NYC is being poorly run regardless though. You can't replicate the NYC experience elsewhere in the US, if the NYC experience wasn't dead right now.
You can sort of replicate NYC in San Fran, near north Chicago, Brickell in Miami and maybe parts of Boston. Toronto and Montreal, too, if we're staying in North America. Virtually all of those cities save for Chicago are being run better than New York in almost every way possible.
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Old 12-19-2020, 10:06 PM
 
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You can replicate South Chicago and Overtown (Miami) in East NY/Brownsville and the South Bronx too. Not exactly a model to emulate.
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Old 12-20-2020, 04:02 AM
 
Location: Manhattan, NYC
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Every industry is affected by the city’s ever punishing laws. That’s what is meant by communism, not actual ownership of businesses by the city. When the city dictates everything one can or can’t do, tax you through the nose, etc. then it really is no different than if they owned you.

In some ways, it is worse than full government ownership because you have draconian laws to follow but bear all financial burdens.

What part of that do you not get?
For me, what you describe is despotism.
Despot definition: A ruler with absolute power; a tyrant.

Communism definition: Any political philosophy or ideology advocating holding the production of resources collectively.
Any political social system that implements a communist political philosophy.
The international socialist society where classes and the state no longer exist.

As you see, communism is an ideal that is hard to implement and never ever exists in that form, because it would mean that redistribution of wealth is completely equal and collective.

Look up also the definition below that explains that communism, socialism, or whatever, doesn't give any indication on whether it is pro-market capitalism or anti-market capitalism. Which is really what you are looking for, I think.

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/ans...-socialism.asp
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Old 12-20-2020, 05:20 AM
 
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Maybe I don't understand the word populace, but of course there's no cities that have the same climate and population that NYC has, as NYC is the largest city on the USA.

If you go by MSAs, there are quite a few in the millions, St Paul, Indianapolis, Philadelphia, and they're all significantly lower taxed than NYC
And all those places have signifcantly less amenities, no secret why they're taxed less johnnytang
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Old 12-20-2020, 05:21 AM
 
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No, Johnnytang, it's SeventhFloor who doesn't understand the word populace, which merely means the people living in a particular area, not the amount of people.

And basically every other major city in the country is more tax-friendly than NYC is.

I can't believe anyone is defending the way NYC is being run!
Meh

johnnytang understood the context

Let me guess you can't wait to do indoor dining
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Old 12-20-2020, 09:30 AM
 
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Meh

johnnytang understood the context

Let me guess you can't wait to do indoor dining
No, he didn't, which is why he replied with, "Maybe I don't understand the word populace."

So you're changing the subject and trying to profile me for clarifying that it wasn't his misunderstanding, but yours?

How do people get to the point where they can't acknowledge that they made a mistake and learn from it rather than taking it personally and becoming defensive/offensive?
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Old 12-20-2020, 11:47 AM
 
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Meh

johnnytang understood the context

Let me guess you can't wait to do indoor dining
Actually I really did not understand because 'populace' in that context would have made sense with the common definition.

Your point, however, is that these places have vastly less services. What services are you referring to, other than public transit? Which cities don't have trash, water, police, or fire? What cities have higher winter maintenance, and why is NYC so high when the density means much higher taxpayers per road mile?
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