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There is construction going on now that will provide Long Island Rail Road commuters acess to Grand Central. The East Side Acess will serve commuters to locations that wouldn't normally stop there. Since Grand Central is in the middle of Financial District, this will help people from Long Island who work in Midtown.
This billion dollar project has been thought of for more than a decade, and we are closer to seeing it manifest. I am trying to find out more information about this like will LIRR commuters have to transfer in Queens to change lines, or will their train go straight there. How many lines will Penn Station will serve?
Do you think this project is worth all the time and money needed to build? Most LIRR commuters who work in Midtown or away from Penn Station probably take the subway to their destination. Is this a good alternative to the subway?
There is construction going on now that will provide Long Island Rail Road commuters acess to Grand Central. The East Side Acess will serve commuters to locations that wouldn't normally stop there. Since Grand Central is in the middle of Financial District, this will help people from Long Island who work in Midtown.
This billion dollar project has been thought of for more than a decade, and we are closer to seeing it manifest. I am trying to find out more information about this like will LIRR commuters have to transfer in Queens to change lines, or will their train go straight there. How many lines will Penn Station will serve?
Do you think this project is worth all the time and money needed to build? Most LIRR commuters who work in Midtown or away from Penn Station probably take the subway to their destination. Is this a good alternative to the subway?
They should find a way to extend from Atlantic Center to Fulton Center in FiDi first
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There is construction going on now that will provide Long Island Rail Road commuters acess to Grand Central. The East Side Acess will serve commuters to locations that wouldn't normally stop there. Since Grand Central is in the middle of Financial District, this will help people from Long Island who work in Midtown.
This billion dollar project has been thought of for more than a decade, and we are closer to seeing it manifest. I am trying to find out more information about this like will LIRR commuters have to transfer in Queens to change lines, or will their train go straight there. How many lines will Penn Station will serve?
Do you think this project is worth all the time and money needed to build? Most LIRR commuters who work in Midtown or away from Penn Station probably take the subway to their destination. Is this a good alternative to the subway?
Original IRT line had a trunk that went from 42nd Street and Park Avenue (GCT) over to 42nd Street/Times Square and Broadway, trains then turned and went up Broadway.
This was eventually changed with IRT trains only running up and down the east side of Manhattan and onto Bronx.
Tons of people work, go to school or whatever on Mid-Town East who live out on Long Island or at least take LIRR. Only way to get to or from Penn Station from east side is to walk, take cross town bus, taxi, or get to Grand Central Terminal and take shuttle. That shuttle by the way runs on the stub that is left of old IRT cross town trunk.
Bringing LIRR to east side (in theory anyway) would make commute easier for those needed to get to and from that part of Manhattan from Long Island.
Grand Central station to Penn station is 1.1 mile. Of all the things that can be done, to me this is a waste of money. To spend that much when the stations aren't that far apart....
Grand Central station to Penn station is 1.1 mile. Of all the things that can be done, to me this is a waste of money. To spend that much when the stations aren't that far apart....
And there is a shuttle subway train that already connects the two.
- Reduce car congestion cross town
- Improve accessibility for the elderly and infirm getting to medical appointments/surgery
- Boost local tourism and business and variety of school choice on the East side. Relieve parking congestion overall
- Give NJers easier access to LI and vice versa, as well as LIers to Westchester/Yonkers
The efficiencies created by this would generate immediate revenue. It may seem small but I have actively rejected any jobs on the West side of Manhattan above 14th street prior to the 7 line extension, due to the ACE being less reliable than 5th Ave or Lexington lines.
If you want to get people back in the city and distribute the traffic evenly, this is the way.
There are not enough cross town train options and the bus lanes are not sufficient.
Like it or not economic activity is divided by 5th ave and in order for the city to get out of this rut, they're going to need to cross pollinate more. I have not seen friends and colleagues at times prior to COVID if they lived in NJ it was the same thing they didn't want to go to East side above 23rd where there's a PATH on the F line.
Notice how any restaurant in the middle costs more vs. 12th or 1st Ave - There's a reason for that. Every inch of Manhattan has not been effectively monetized.
New Yorkers can walk, but if you're not a tourist and commuting to work , subway + 15 to 30 minutes walk is too much. Although less relevant for workers after COVID as more can be remote.
So then the tourists aren't going to walk to that hole in the wall restaurant in LES. They're going to take an Uber. Why do you think LES is having a hard time getting residents back? NO TRAIN!
Cross town trains are the key to the city's economic revival. Period.
Try getting to Chelsea Market from Astoria with a busted L train, construction on C,E and limited A service. You're going to be covered in sweat and burn 300-500 calories one way.
I am getting too old to be doing that crap. Wouldn't do it for a 50k pay raise and all the BS taxes and expectations that come with it either.
Grand Central station to Penn station is 1.1 mile. Of all the things that can be done, to me this is a waste of money. To spend that much when the stations aren't that far apart....
Agreed. When I used to commute in several days a week I ended up driving much of the time, parking near the Midtown Tunnel and walking to 53rd and Madison. Around the same distance and 15-20 minutes.
Elon Musk is busy getting his bird on Mars but in his spare time away from solar energy, battery storage, and world domination of the electric car market, he is working on his Boring company that will build tunnels on multiple levels below every city in America. Instead of $200 Million per mile NYC spends now it'll be a fraction of that cost to connect any two points
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