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Old 06-16-2021, 07:36 PM
 
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Fast food workers work more than one job at the same time?

Some people have "open" relationships. Most others would rather not see their wife get screwed by someone else. lol
Yes, it's quite common for minimum wage workers to have more than one job, especially in fast food where they specifically keep them below the required amounts before they have to provide insurance. Almost no fast food or grocery store worker works 40 hours a week.
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Old 06-16-2021, 07:38 PM
 
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Just like I posted proof at your request regarding NYCHA rents with literally 30 seconds of googling.

Obviously I'm not privy to the commercial leases of America's F100 companies. I also don't think they're idiots.

However, I will say again. If anyone believes that these F100 companies want to go back to the office because they have long terms leases is a straight up fool.

These are the same companies that release products/services with KNOWN liabilities because they've run the numbers and the potential fines are just a "cost of doing business". Why do you think they have armies of lawyers in house and on retainer. Because everyone does everything by the book?
If you're not privy to their leases, then why are you discussing how they're structured?

Most people on here don't work for F100 anyway, they took what the Morgan Stanley CEO said and are relating it to their own professional experience within the current climate.

Certain industries have the ability to WFH, some don't, that's really going to be the bottom line
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Old 06-16-2021, 08:21 PM
 
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Yes, it's quite common for minimum wage workers to have more than one job, especially in fast food where they specifically keep them below the required amounts before they have to provide insurance. Almost no fast food or grocery store worker works 40 hours a week.
Can the fast food worker be on the clock at 2 different places at the same time?
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Old 06-16-2021, 08:23 PM
 
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If you're not privy to their leases, then why are you discussing how they're structured?

Most people on here don't work for F100 anyway, they took what the Morgan Stanley CEO said and are relating it to their own professional experience within the current climate.

Certain industries have the ability to WFH, some don't, that's really going to be the bottom line
...because most commercial leases follow the same structure? Most have early termination clauses.
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Old 06-16-2021, 08:25 PM
 
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Can the fast food worker be on the clock at 2 different places at the same time?
So you're imagining some fantastical scenario where someone seamlessly manages to handle two full time jobs, working the exact same hours, just what... going from laptop to laptop? Your supposition is people are lazy and unproductive and only work 10 hours a week, at most, and that's why they need to be supervised in office. Yet you're also claiming they're going to willingly take on an additional job and do them both at the same time, even though they apparently didn't want to do the first job, so they can WFH.

I mean....
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Old 06-16-2021, 08:33 PM
 
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...because most commercial leases follow the same structure? Most have early termination clauses.
Never heard of this. Need proof otherwise its hearsay.
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Old 06-17-2021, 04:38 AM
 
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So you're imagining some fantastical scenario where someone seamlessly manages to handle two full time jobs, working the exact same hours, just what... going from laptop to laptop? Your supposition is people are lazy and unproductive and only work 10 hours a week, at most, and that's why they need to be supervised in office. Yet you're also claiming they're going to willingly take on an additional job and do them both at the same time, even though they apparently didn't want to do the first job, so they can WFH.

I mean....
This isn't fantastical. This is a very real possibility and is going on.

People that work 10 hours a week aren't necessarily lazy. Many positions aren't full time if you really dig into them.

My brother is currently looking to move companies.
He was literally offered a position the other week by one of his former managers who said, " you'll work 1 day a week and we'll talk about diversity the other 4". This is almost a verbatim quote. This was with a global Fortune 20 company. The catch was that they pay a bit below industry standard for the west coast.

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Never heard of this. Need proof otherwise its hearsay.
Since you never heard of such a thing, that means it doesn't exist.
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Old 06-17-2021, 06:03 AM
 
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Which RXR executive called this old fart....



We already know the CLO/CDO bag holders are responsible for the "Back to Office" trope.

They will be underwater if they can't justify Midtown property values any longer.
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Old 06-17-2021, 06:08 AM
 
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You forgot the part where everybody is just a number and you're all replaceable. Eager and willing individuals that have no problem showing up to work will fill the void. Employers will win at the end of the day, whether its paying you less to wfh or finding fresh new grads to plug in your gap. Race to the bottom starts now. All industry execs have to do is get together on the same page and workers are screwed. Orzo this might lead to another industrial revolution?
Gen Z is saying "No"

And we have the internal research to back it up. Unfortunately company execs prefer "Alternative Facts" so they'll wait 20 years until it's too late and by then it will be "somebody else's problem"

We barely found the 3 entry level candidates as it is. Let's see how long they stay before jumping ship. My bet is a year max...
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Old 06-17-2021, 06:28 AM
 
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People here are having conversations about 2 different sectors of workers: low wage retail and restaurant industry workers who by nature have to be PHYSICALLY PRESENT to do their jobs. The other sector are white collar professionals who are either in IT, finance, law, marketing, engineering, etc. who do NOT have to be physically present to do their jobs. The former category is experiencing the fastest wage inflation and for good reason. The latter is seeing some wage pressure north but not enough.

For the latter category it is definitely possible to work multiple remote jobs at the same time. I was doing it earlier this year in January - February from 2 computers side by side. As long as you are not violating any non-competes or working at cross purposes against jobs then it should be fine. Some people even work across entirely different industries like accounting and desktop publishing. There is no cross over here.
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