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Old 08-15-2021, 05:47 PM
 
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But on the other hand, city residents don't live on an isolated island and therefore people interaction means one's decision to get vaccinated (or not) does effect those physically around them.
How so?

If you are vaccinated then you are protected from the virus, aren't you?

If the vaccines don't protect you, then they are not vaccines, and you should be scared of the vaccinated people just as you are of the unvaccinated. And what's the point of mandate?

 
Old 08-16-2021, 05:22 AM
 
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How so?

If you are vaccinated then you are protected from the virus, aren't you?

If the vaccines don't protect you, then they are not vaccines, and you should be scared of the vaccinated people just as you are of the unvaccinated. And what's the point of mandate?
No vaccine is 100% protective but vaccines give one a certain percentage of protection which one is unlikely to have if they are not vaccinated.
 
Old 08-16-2021, 06:30 AM
 
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No vaccine is 100% protective but vaccines give one a certain percentage of protection which one is unlikely to have if they are not vaccinated.
This is false. You're not following the science.

The ONLY benefit is a potential reduction in symptoms. That's it.
 
Old 08-16-2021, 12:45 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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In fact, it is the vaccinated who are spreading the covid virus not the other way around:

First- the spike protein is being produced by the trillions in a vaccinated’s body. These micro particles ooze out of their skins and noses (and other body cavities for that matter) and infect the unvaccinated near them.

Second, the vaccinated do not have to produce proof that they are covid-free- enabling many to carry the covid virus around to both the unvaccinated and vaccinated.

For these reasons they are pushing the vaccine on everyone - because the vaccine is what makes people sick but not in the ways the majority think.

Government officials also know that the best way to avoid getting severely sick or dying from covid is to increase your vitamin D3, zinc and vitamin C levels and to cut out the processed foods. Yet, they’re not emphasizing this.
 
Old 08-16-2021, 12:56 PM
 
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In fact, it is the vaccinated who are spreading the covid virus not the other way around:

First- the spike protein is being produced by the trillions in a vaccinated’s body. These micro particles ooze out of their skins and noses (and other body cavities for that matter) and infect the unvaccinated near them.



Government officials also know that the best way to avoid getting severely sick or dying from covid is to increase your vitamin D3, zinc and vitamin C levels and to cut out the processed foods. Yet, they’re not emphasizing this.

Yes , it is all in fact

No experts I would trust or believe , would state any of that to be fact. In fact your first premise is false .

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Viral shedding and COVID-19 vaccines

Confusion related to COVID-19 vaccines has also involved aspects of viral shedding. The source of this confusion is twofold. First, people may not distinguish between the reproduction of a virus and the COVID-19 vaccines causing our bodies to produce the spike protein.

Second, like the whisper-down-the-lane game, talking down the line further confounds the confusion. Let’s take a closer look:

Viral reproduction versus production of spike protein — Two major factors distinguish viral reproduction and the processing of the new COVID-19 vaccines — the parts of the virus involved and the location of processing.


Parts of virus — During an infection, the entire virus is produced, but the COVID-19 vaccines only introduce the nucleic acid related to one viral protein — the spike protein — so no other genes or proteins are available to produce viral particles. Simply put, it is impossible for the vaccines to result in the production of infectious virus particles. Our cells do not have the directions to make the whole virus.


Location of processing — As described earlier, when a person is infected with COVID-19, the earliest viral replication occurs in the nasal cavity. If the immune system does not gain control during those early days, the virus may spread to other parts of the body and infect cells in other locations.

This is why some people seem OK in the beginning, but then after about a week, they get more severely ill. On the other hand, the mRNA and adenovirus-vector vaccines are processed near the injection site, so the spike protein is never in an area of the body from which it could be shed, such as the nose.

For these two reasons, we can be certain that the SARS-CoV-2 virus is not shed as the vaccine is processed.


https://www.chop.edu/news/feature-ar...d-can-t-happen

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Old 08-16-2021, 01:06 PM
 
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Government officials also know that the best way to avoid getting severely sick or dying from covid is to increase your vitamin D3, zinc and vitamin C levels and to cut out the processed foods. Yet, they’re not emphasizing this.
And the way most people would do that are to take vitamin supplements.

But you know those aren't FDA approved either so....
 
Old 08-16-2021, 01:30 PM
 
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Can we just agree to disagree. Some are pro vaccine. Some are against it. And some don't care.
End thread.
 
Old 08-16-2021, 03:14 PM
 
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And the way most people would do that are to take vitamin supplements.

But you know those aren't FDA approved either so....
Who said anything about supplements? Most Supplements are garbage - filled with soy, sugar and corn fructose. You need to get at least 6 to 7 cups of vegetables per day.
 
Old 08-16-2021, 03:39 PM
 
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That's just way too many vegetables. My stomach will start to protest.
 
Old 08-16-2021, 04:14 PM
 
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That's just way too many vegetables. My stomach will start to protest.
LOL - you can blend them.
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