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No it actually isn't. One camera in the front entrance can show him coming and going.
This may be the one thing that would do him in
Everything else mentioned has been total nonsense if he's not an idiot and determined to commit fraud
Even then it's one thing for the landlord to know he's full of it it's another thing to prove it
But let's say he visits him mom a few times a week now it gets a lot murkier bc he is coming in and out of the building
Do you really think a housing court judge is gonna go through months of video to see how often this guy comes in and out ? I doubt it
People scam these apartments all the time and the vast majority get away with it
People are acting like this would be some big case where the courts would do a ton of forensic accounting and put tons of rescourses into this
They won't
He'll go to court a couple of times tops for a short amount of time and that's it
And again NYC is the most tentant friendly city in the country
If he's not an idiot he's extremely likely to get away with it
My worthless excuse of an aunt had a rent controlled apartment she really has no rights to that the landlord tried multiple times to evict her on to no avail and later had a Mitchell Lama apartment she basically didjt live in
They tried to evict her at least 5 times
She was maybe there a day or two a month tops and they still didn't get her out
Do you really think a housing court judge is gonna go through months of video to see how often this guy comes in and out ? I doubt it
Absolutely. I had a co worker in a RS apt. Her mom passed and she inherited her house upstate. She was fixing the place up so spending a lot of time up there but her home was in the apartment in the city. Landlord caught wind of her getting this house and tried to use it against her to get her out. Luckily the cameras worked in her favor. She actually wasn't scamming, the landord just wanted her out to jack up her rent.
He's obviously commiting fraud but if you actually think that some housing judge is gonna go this far in the most tenant friendly city in the country you're mistaken
It's on the landlord to prove he doesn't live there and the landlord isn't gaining access to cell phone records
People barely even use physical banks anymore ,he doesn't have to go to a church locally if at all etc
None of these things would prove he doesn't live there
Just taking my own bank statements in the last 2 years I've physically used a bak 12 times
9 of them were nowhere near my home and 7 of them were in a different state
It proves nothing
Bottom line is of he's determined to commit fraud and act like he was living there it's very hard for the landlord to prove he wasn't
The "squatter" can expose him and he will never has to pay the rents he squattered on.
Absolutely. I had a co worker in a RS apt. Her mom passed and she inherited her house upstate. She was fixing the place up so spending a lot of time up there but her home was in the apartment in the city. Landlord caught wind of her getting this house and tried to use it against her to get her out. Luckily the cameras worked in her favor. She actually wasn't scamming, the landord just wanted her out to jack up her rent.
"the landlord isn't gaining access to cell phone records"
Uh, yeah, he is. In holdover proceedings in rent-regulated apartments, landlords can and will get access to all kinds of personal records in discovery.
Yes because she was shown on camera coming and going from her apartment Monday through Friday for almost a year. So a landlord could very easily do the same thing with this dude and if he's not coming and going from it he will be caught.
Hopefully the Op isn't doing some shameless thing like on the show. Remember how the dad was collecting the social security for his mom when she died a few years ago.
"the landlord isn't gaining access to cell phone records"
Uh, yeah, he is. In holdover proceedings in rent-regulated apartments, landlords can and will get access to all kinds of personal records in discovery.
the burden of proof falls on the tenant to prove his primary home when challenged ..no one else has to prove a thing if you are challenged in or out of court .
when it is true you will gladly produce things like cell phone pings , atm usage , ez pass , etc .that is your defense .
so courts or landlords dont have to access a thing , it is the person trying to show where they really live that does.
it is no different than proving your domicile to the irs
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