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Old 11-27-2021, 10:28 AM
 
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NYCHA residents do pay rent. That's a blatant lie that they don't. Fix the topic.

Have you noticed a spike in rents in nyc? It's a true affordability issue for a lot of people especially who do frontline or essential work.

NYCHA residents are tenants, who pay rent and they are 'entitled' to receive building services.
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Old 11-27-2021, 11:51 AM
 
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NYCHA residents do pay rent. That's a blatant lie that they don't. Fix the topic.

Have you noticed a spike in rents in nyc? It's a true affordability issue for a lot of people especially who do frontline or essential work.

NYCHA residents are tenants, who pay rent and they are 'entitled' to receive building services.
No one said they don't pay rent. They pay a heavily subsidized rent. Th average rent in NYCHA is paltry. 90% of households have an official household income less than 60% AMI.

30% of 60% of AMI. Do the math. 75% of households remain 15+ years with 50% remaining 20 years+. With all the fraud going on in NYCHA, these numbers are surely higher.


I know why some people get defensive:

https://www.manhattan-institute.org/...more-efficient
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Asians, for instance, account for 11.1% of the city’s households in poverty but make up only 5.1% of NYCHA households. In contrast, African-Americans constitute 25% of the city’s households in poverty but 45.5% of households in NYCHA. Hispanics, too, are overrepresented in public housing, constituting 33% of poverty households but 44.6% of NYCHA households.[5]
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Tenants have a disincentive to increase their earnings while in public housing. By rule, tenants pay 30% of income as rent; as their income increases, so does their rent—in sharp contrast to private-sector tenants who sign fixed-term leases, which set a fixed rent. Between January 2018 and January 2019, 83,216 NYCHA households experienced a rent increase of $112, or 22% on average. Their rent increased, on average, from $519 to $631 as their income increased 16% ($4,271), from $26,019 to $30,290. For the same reason, some tenants have an incentive to earn less or to simply underreport income. During the same period, 43,730 NYCHA households saw their rent decrease by $160, or 27% on average. The average income for these households decreased 18% ($4,640), from $26,012 to $21,372.
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Old 11-27-2021, 11:53 AM
 
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I can't even MoD anymore, I have to have heart-to-hearts now

If you notice other forums have a lot of spam threads

NYC virtually nil

I can't even do that now cause people bringing their mental issues on here
put up a sign directing them to the dr phil forum down the hall
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Old 11-27-2021, 11:55 AM
 
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No one said they don't pay rent. They pay a heavily subsidized rent. Th average rent in NYCHA is paltry. 90% of households have an official household income less than 60% AMI.

30% of 60% of AMI. Do the math. 75% of households remain 15+ years with 50% remaining 20 years+. With all the fraud going on in NYCHA, these numbers are surely higher.


I know why some people get defensive:

https://www.manhattan-institute.org/...more-efficient
many lower income people or those who show low incomes in the projects have much higher incomes from either off the books jobs or the under ground economy.

i grew up in a nyc housing project so i witnessed what people did first hand and that was going on decades ago when i lived there .

today it has grown worse
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Old 11-27-2021, 12:04 PM
 
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many lower income people or those who show low incomes in the projects have much higher incomes from either off the books jobs or the under ground economy.

i grew up in a nyc housing project so i witnessed what people did first hand and that was going on decades ago when i lived there .

today it has grown worse
Of course. I'm not against helping the old, infirm, or those genuinely unable to make a living.or who have fallen on hard times.

The system promotes scammers and parasites.

It's well known that single women get a NYCHA apartment and then their "baby daddy", brother, cousin's, etc. (who are working) live with them. Or older people who live in 2-3 bedroom apartments have family living with them while officially not on the lease.
How about those renting out rooms/apartments?

The entire thing has become scam.

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Old 11-27-2021, 12:11 PM
 
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put up a sign directing them to the dr phil forum down the hall
He/she doesn't like when CERTAIN topics are discussed. Is there a list of C-D approved topics? Maybe they got the idea when YT/Twitter started banning anti-vaxxer stuff. I got the JJ shot and a Pfizer booster but I'm not for discouraging certain topics ust because I may disagree with them.
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Old 11-27-2021, 12:12 PM
 
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anything goes usually except politics and vaccines which have their own topics or forums already.

i have no interest in politics and the vaccine discussions are a waste of my time
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Old 11-27-2021, 12:23 PM
 
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Not all NYCHA residents are “leeches.” And just because one pays below market rate doesn’t mean they have to live with pests, asbestos and broken furniture. What would the purpose of NYCHA be? Have a heart. Many of these people are elderly and disabled or on their way out of the projects.

An ex friend of mine who lived in a luxury building in Chelsea and is like 30 and lives with her parents and pays no rent. Is she a leech too?
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Old 11-27-2021, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Staten Island
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NYCHA is an endless drain on NYC Taxpayers, a bottomless pit of money thrown at it for years and years. NYCHA was at first designed to be a stepping stone for the working class of NYC. Start out in a NYCHA apartment and then as your income increases move into a nicer market rate building or buy your own home. I know a few homeowners who started out in the Berry Homes or the big projects in lower Manhattan and later bought nice little houses on SI. That's when NYCHA was for motivated hard working people. Adams is going to have make some hard choices regarding NYCHA. Because at the current rate it will drag down the entire city with it.
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Old 11-27-2021, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Staten Island
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Not all NYCHA residents are “leeches.” And just because one pays below market rate doesn’t mean they have to live with pests, asbestos and broken furniture. What would the purpose of NYCHA be? Have a heart. Many of these people are elderly and disabled or on their way out of the projects.

An ex friend of mine who lived in a luxury building in Chelsea and is like 30 and lives with her parents and pays no rent. Is she a leech too?

A private leech maybe, but not a leech at NYC taxpayers expense.
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