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Old 03-15-2022, 08:37 AM
 
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It's not stored by nature. HydronQuebec built a huge series of dams and reservoirs to do the storing. Think the James Bay project and others.

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I like the view that Canadian water is ALREADY stored energy...by NATURE. That is a refreshing way to look at it.

Difference with Siberian windmills is that Canada can turn the water flow on and off, Russia cannot do the same with the wind.

Canadian friends in the Western parts of the state complain about the high cost of electricity, aka hydro, while Quebec is sending electric power, sometimes at giveaway prices, to the U.S and New York. So perhaps it wasn't CUOMO who flummoxed the earlier construction of the trans Hudson link but rather the Canadian government who would rather not have revolutions in BC and Alberta.
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Old 03-15-2022, 10:10 AM
 
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Is this the project where they are destroying acres of forest land to build the transmission lines? Doesn't sound "green" to me.
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Old 03-15-2022, 10:28 AM
 
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I like the view that Canadian water is ALREADY stored energy...by NATURE. That is a refreshing way to look at it.

Difference with Siberian windmills is that Canada can turn the water flow on and off, Russia cannot do the same with the wind.

Canadian friends in the Western parts of the state complain about the high cost of electricity,aka hydro, while Quebec is sending electric power, sometimes at giveaway prices, to the U.S and New York. So perhaps it wasn't CUOMO who flummoxed the earlier construction of the trans Hudson link but rather the Canadian government who would rather not have revolutions in BC and Alberta.
Do you mean province, and if so which one?

I live in BC and hydro is not expensive. In Canada only Quebec and Manitoba have lower rates.

Also, the Canadian government does not control provincial hydro. It is a provincial jurisdiction.
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Old 03-15-2022, 11:32 AM
 
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It's not stored by nature. HydronQuebec built a huge series of dams and reservoirs to do the storing. Think the James Bay project and others.
The dam and ensuing reservoir are man-made; the nature part is that you need to site them where nature had carved out good enough parameters to put a dam and that nature is able to replenish the "fuel stock" for you. I think one argument for why it's less destructive in Quebec is due to the relatively low biodiversity there and the sheer scale of the biomes there. Hydro-Quebec also does have some fairly good environmental oversight legislation governing it.



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Is this the project where they are destroying acres of forest land to build the transmission lines? Doesn't sound "green" to me.

Pretty minuscule amount of destruction given the larger environmental benefits of what it'd likely be in place of and the benefits for electricity rates and stability in the Tristate Area. HVDC transmission infrastructure has a really small footprint though I've seen alternate plans about laying the cable under the Hudson. Meh, do both.

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Old 03-17-2022, 06:47 AM
 
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Nature, aka the Sun, provides ALL the energy to lift the water and allow it to fall again as rain to fill the dams.
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Old 03-17-2022, 07:52 AM
 
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This project is a pipe dream. Can you imagine the outcry of the public around Lake Champlain, the Whitehall area and along the Hudson when this project reaches the design stage?



The "Northern Pass" transmission line which was envisioned to bring Quebec hydro power to greater Boston was cancelled by Eversource Energy after strong and continuous protests by the people who live along the proposed route of the transmission line.
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Old 03-17-2022, 03:43 PM
 
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This project is a pipe dream. Can you imagine the outcry of the public around Lake Champlain, the Whitehall area and along the Hudson when this project reaches the design stage?



The "Northern Pass" transmission line which was envisioned to bring Quebec hydro power to greater Boston was cancelled by Eversource Energy after strong and continuous protests by the people who live along the proposed route of the transmission line.
This is one of the few reasons why the United States does not have a coherent energy policy on the federal, state, or local level.
As a result, majority of the country, including NYC, is living in borderline 3rd world energy infrastructure conditions with blackouts and brownouts, high energy costs, and dirty and inefficient production and transmission at all levels for all types of energy (including hydrocarbons).
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Old 03-19-2022, 01:58 PM
 
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The USA does not have a national energy policy, transportation policy or industrial policy. We have a congress that is dysfunctional and incapable of doing any planning.
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Old 03-19-2022, 04:24 PM
 
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IIRC the cables are all underwater/underground.

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This project is a pipe dream. Can you imagine the outcry of the public around Lake Champlain, the Whitehall area and along the Hudson when this project reaches the design stage?



The "Northern Pass" transmission line which was envisioned to bring Quebec hydro power to greater Boston was cancelled by Eversource Energy after strong and continuous protests by the people who live along the proposed route of the transmission line.
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Old 04-15-2022, 08:55 PM
 
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https://queenspost.com/state-approve...western-queens

State Approves Two Renewable Energy Projects That Will Benefit Western Queens
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