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Old 04-18-2022, 09:42 PM
 
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The tech sector is a field that people get paid crazy amounts to do minimal and stress-free work (assuming you’re good at what you do). My coworkers and I make 6-figures just to sit at home comfortably and attend to ticket requests from our colleagues.

If most people knew how much I make they’d say “you make $X/hr. for what??”

This is Apple we’re talking about…it’s not like they’re broke. Inflation and cost of living is rising but you have no problem with that wages haven’t risen as equally.

Apple workers have to be product experts, salespersons, IT specialists, in one and it’s not a remote job. In 2022 it is not unreasonable to ask for that amount considering once again, I know a guy making $130K/yr just to do at most 3 hours of work a day (sometimes even less).
I make way more than that to do the same 3 maybe 4 hours a day. But when projects need to be done or something goes terrible wrong and data needs to be recovered. I’m worth every penny as it all gets done in a. Timely fashion. The losses my company would incur if I didn’t do it makes my salary mean nothing. Reputation is huge in the tech world and loosing a customer due to sucking, word spreads fast and hurts you in a very competitive managed services space.

Apple employees don’t drive or generate revenue. When someone walks into the apple store they are already planning to spend $$.
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Old 04-18-2022, 10:21 PM
 
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I make way more than that to do the same 3 maybe 4 hours a day. But when projects need to be done or something goes terrible wrong and data needs to be recovered. I’m worth every penny as it all gets done in a. Timely fashion. The losses my company would incur if I didn’t do it makes my salary mean nothing. Reputation is huge in the tech world and loosing a customer due to sucking, word spreads fast and hurts you in a very competitive managed services space.

Apple employees don’t drive or generate revenue. When someone walks into the apple store they are already planning to spend $$.
And you are a true tech. We have a tech that I'm sure earns $100.00 + per hr, but a tech versus an order taker is not the same thing. Not even close.
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Old 04-19-2022, 07:31 AM
 
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Apple employees don’t drive or generate revenue. When someone walks into the apple store they are already planning to spend $$.
Sure they do. I walked into the Apple store to buy a new charging cable and ended up buying a new laptop instead.
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Old 04-19-2022, 08:33 AM
 
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Sure they do. I walked into the Apple store to buy a new charging cable and ended up buying a new laptop instead.
That's your fault!
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Old 04-19-2022, 08:40 AM
 
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LOL If they were truly product experts, salespersons, etc., then I wouldn't have a problem, but the ones I've interacted with couldn't even get me checked out with my products. They weren't doing anything for me but giving me what I already selected (on my own) and was coming to pick-up. In other words, customers aren't necessarily getting expert services right now. If the advice is for people to get a new device for something that can be fixed by real experts, then I don't see the point.

I only frown upon it based on my experiences at Apple stores. The people I dealt with were hardly "experts" and merely order takes and couldn't even do that properly. Now if getting paid $30 an hour means I will actually be in and out for simple pick-ups, then fine, but I've had nothing but headaches for very simple pick-up orders. In other words, I expect better customer service for higher pay.
Whatever Apple workers make now why don’t you have a problem with it? Let’s say they make $18/hr. At one point that would have been “preposterous” too (such as in let’s say 2000). Were you upset when the pay they receive now was announced? And if so, why not?

You can say YOUR experiences were bad but I can promise you once again out of all the apps I’m sure you use someone is on the other side managing it doing practically nothing until someone says an issue has come up and making more money than you.

There’s a running joke in IT that their colleagues think they’re such tech wizards but all they’re doing is just Googling someone else’s code/troubleshooting steps. And again, they make 6 figures sitting surfing their phone until “Hey. My computer is being weird”.

There are teenagers outearning their parents because they learned how to monetize video games and art. Women making 6-figures to post feet pictures. Just saw a video of a private chef making $14K a month just to hang with people and cook for them.

But Apple workers making $30/hr. Is just so unfathomable.

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Old 04-19-2022, 09:11 AM
 
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I have no monkey in this circus, but if private sector employee's want to try and unionize, fine by me.
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Old 04-19-2022, 10:59 AM
 
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I make way more than that to do the same 3 maybe 4 hours a day. But when projects need to be done or something goes terrible wrong and data needs to be recovered. I’m worth every penny as it all gets done in a. Timely fashion. The losses my company would incur if I didn’t do it makes my salary mean nothing. Reputation is huge in the tech world and loosing a customer due to sucking, word spreads fast and hurts you in a very competitive managed services space.

Apple employees don’t drive or generate revenue. When someone walks into the apple store they are already planning to spend $$.

What do you think is the right rate to pay them in 2022?

And if you say it should be lower than I ask who is going to do the job for a low pay? If your answer is “This a job for high school kids and students” the problem is students aren’t available during school hours. So should Apple only be open from 5-10PM?
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Old 04-19-2022, 11:26 AM
 
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Whatever Apple workers make now why don’t you have a problem with it? Let’s say they make $18/hr. At one point that would have been “preposterous” too (such as in let’s say 2000). Were you upset when the pay they receive now was announced? And if so, why not?

You can say YOUR experiences were bad but I can promise you once again out of all the apps I’m sure you use someone is on the other side managing it doing practically nothing until someone says an issue has come up and making more money than you.

There’s a running joke in IT that their colleagues think they’re such tech wizards but all they’re doing is just Googling someone else’s code/troubleshooting steps. And again, they make 6 figures sitting surfing their phone until “Hey. My computer is being weird”.

There are teenagers outearning their parents because they learned how to monetize video games and art. Women making 6-figures to post feet pictures. Just saw a video of a private chef making $14K a month just to hang with people and cook for them.

But Apple workers making $30/hr. Is just so unfathomable.
We're not talking about just Apple technicians though. We're talking about ALL Apple workers at the Grand Central location making $30.00/hr, regardless of what they do. That's what I take issue with. Do you really think that someone who is say just a greeter should make the same amount as someone else with a higher skill set? The pay should be commensurate to the skill set, that's my point. I should've clarified that originally, but when I posted, I was really thinking about when I go and pick-up something I ordered online from one of the stores and someone just comes and hands me what I came to retrieve. That doesn't require much skills.

It's like saying that you have a company and the pay should be identical for managerial AND non-managerial positions. Obviously the responsibilities/skill set are not the same, and thus neither is the pay.
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Old 04-19-2022, 11:49 AM
 
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We're not talking about just Apple technicians though. We're talking about ALL Apple workers at the Grand Central location making $30.00/hr, regardless of what they do. That's what I take issue with. Do you really think that someone who is say just a greeter should make the same amount as someone else with a higher skill set? The pay should be commensurate to the skill set, that's my point. I should've clarified that originally, but when I posted, I was really thinking about when I go and pick-up something I ordered online from one of the stores and someone just comes and hands me what I came to retrieve. That doesn't require much skills.

It's like saying that you have a company and the pay should be identical for managerial AND non-managerial positions. Obviously the responsibilities/skill set are not the same, and thus neither is the pay.
In a free market, that is for them and Apple to figure out.
If companies like Apple and Amazon unionize their low skilled labor completely, they won't be around in 40-50 years and go the way of the dinosaurs, unless the tech catches up and replaces these unionized workers.
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Old 04-19-2022, 12:50 PM
 
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What do you think is the right rate to pay them in 2022?

And if you say it should be lower than I ask who is going to do the job for a low pay? If your answer is “This a job for high school kids and students” the problem is students aren’t available during school hours. So should Apple only be open from 5-10PM?
Minimum wage maybe 20. It's unskilled labor 7 year old kids can teach an adult how to use an iphone. I don't really care what Apple pays them I am sure it won't be $30 an hour. That's more than NYC teachers, cops and fireman start out with.
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