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You obsessed with thinking you need an education or training and that deserves more money.
You don't want a job at apple on the sales floor so who are you to say a certain pay is too much.
And despite what you think. Not everyone can do that job. Not everyone can interact with 100's or 1000's of people at work, stand for 8 hours at a time, be a salesperson, have a smile on their face and be polite, etc etc etc
I didn't say anything about needing an education or training. YOU said that. Having certain skill sets doesn't necessarily mean having a higher education or training for that matter.
I'm on the business side of things, so if I used your model, the business would never grow and the people working for me would get everything. Overpaying people because of what they "deserve" is not how it works in the real world. You get paid based on what you are worth and it's simply a question of economics. People that work for me are paid fairly and paid well (I don't believe in sweatshop wages), but not overpaid. That's exactly what would happen here and it's a terrible business model.
Unfortunately, there are too many airheads out here that don't know the first thing about successfully running a business and being profitable.
I didn't say anything about needing an education or training. YOU said that. Having certain skill sets doesn't necessarily mean having a higher education or training for that matter.
I'm on the business side of things, so if I used your model, the business would never grow and the people working for me would get everything. Overpaying people because of what they "deserve" is not how it works in the real world. You get paid based on what you are worth and it's simply a question of economics. People that work for me are paid fairly and paid well (I don't believe in sweatshop wages), but not overpaid. That's exactly what would happen here and it's a terrible business model.
Unfortunately, there are too many airheads out here that don't know the first thing about successfully running a business and being profitable.
I'm pretty sure Apple knows something about running a business
And again YOUR opinion is that they are over paid. That is YOURS.
Thankfully you don't have a billion dollar company. People would be calling you scrounge or cheap ____.
I also find it hilarious you are okay with influences making one post on their social media and making 6 figures for one post but you take issue with someone working hard dealing with all sorts of people, standing on their feet, and always being in good spirts for 40 hours a week trying to make a decent living wage for NYC.
Paying someone $62,400/year to hand out phones, tablets and answer questions is not a good business model. Employees with real technical skills may deserve more than $20/hour ($41,600/year) but I have no idea how much more.
When it comes to private enterprise, it's only up to the employees and business to decide.
I'm pretty sure Apple knows something about running a business
And again YOUR opinion is that they are over paid. That is YOURS.
Thankfully you don't have a billion dollar company. People would be calling you scrounge or cheap ____.
I also find it hilarious you are okay with influences making one post on their social media and making 6 figures for one post but you take issue with someone working hard dealing with all sorts of people, standing on their feet, and always being in good spirts for 40 hours a week trying to make a decent living wage for NYC.
They do and that's why if they do pay them that much, you will see fewer of them to compensate for the higher pay, otherwise, it doesn't make economic sense. They have high profit margins because they keep overhead costs low to reasonable.
Good spirits? That's the thing. It's comical to argue that they should be paid top dollar when the ones I have dealt with don't even know their products or what they are doing, but yes, let's pay them $30+ an hour because New York is expensive and they show up to work. Big deal. Lots of people work hard and work long hours. That doesn't automatically entitle them to a salary they think they deserve.
They do and that's why if they do pay them that much, you will see fewer of them to compensate for the higher pay, otherwise, it doesn't make economic sense. They have high profit margins because they keep overhead costs low to reasonable.
Good spirits? That's the thing. It's comical to argue that they should be paid top dollar when the ones I have dealt with don't even know their products or what they are doing, but yes, let's pay them $30+ an hour because New York is expensive and they show up to work. Big deal. Lots of people work hard and work long hours. That doesn't automatically entitle them to a salary they think they deserve.
Clearly you never worked a customer service job in NYC. Those jobs can't be paid enough to deal with all the types of personalities. Especially the pompous people, like some people on here.
Clearly you never worked a customer service job in NYC. Those jobs can't be paid enough to deal with all the types of personalities. Especially the pompous people, like some people on here.
Yes, because in the real world, if people want $40/hr because they work with all types of personalities then it's justified. Guess what? I work with all types of personalities too. It's called LIFE. Doesn't mean I should paid an extra $50/hr on too of my salary.
The costs of all labor everywhere are passed onto the consumer. It doesn't matter whether it is direct or indirect. Whatever you get paid is passed on to consumers. Tell us how much you make so we can decide how over paid you are and tell you what your time is worth.
I earn every penny I work for and not just because I deal with many personalities all day either. I'm actually skilled at what I do and save the business money, while making money and operating profitably year after year by not overpaying the people that work for me (but still paying them fairly) and maximizing profits, upselling clients where possible and generating more sales via referrals.
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For the sake of the thread, can you tell us exactly what went wrong?
Yeah, as I have several times, I ordered (and paid for) some Apple items on their website. Got confirmation that everything was paid for and the time to arrive for pick-up. Well some locations are better than others. Anywho, the Apple "specialist" (if I can call them that) did not know that I had already paid for the items despite scanning the bar code from the receipt on my phone several times so we stood there with them holding the items I had paid for and this "specialist" arguing that I had not paid for my items. Then the "specialist" had to call someone else over to be told what to do and only then was the issue resolved, so tell me again what this person did that should warrant them being paid $30+ an hour when they couldn't even fill a simple online order?
Wanna guess how manu overpaid Apple "specialists" it took for a simple online order of two things? SIX....
Two people to confirm my arrival time, another "specialist" to ask me yet again what I was there for and direct me to yet another "specialist" to scan my bar code and wait with me while another "specialist" actually fulfilled the simple order and then a "manager" to help the "specialist" to rescan the same bar code that they scanned before. So in total six people making at least $20.00 an hour or $120.00 minimum total for an online order that could be processed a hell of a lot cheaper if they closed down a retail location and shifted to online only. Makes sense to me...
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Having certain skill sets doesn't necessarily mean having a higher education or training for that matter.
