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Old 04-29-2022, 10:05 AM
 
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BdeB would never have backed down... Hahahaha

Good for them.

https://abc7ny.com/chinatown-homeles...ests/11802250/
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Old 04-29-2022, 10:19 AM
 
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BdeB would never have backed down... Hahahaha

Good for them.

https://abc7ny.com/chinatown-homeles...ests/11802250/

Good to see the hard working, tax paying Asian-American middle-class fight back.
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Old 04-29-2022, 10:35 AM
 
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BdeB would never have backed down... Hahahaha

Good for them.

https://abc7ny.com/chinatown-homeles...ests/11802250/
DeBlasio was willing to fight to the last Asian life to preserve his agenda (whatever that was b/c he kept changing it).
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Old 04-29-2022, 11:41 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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This is not just about the City "caving in", but also changing its stance about building tons of shelters that do nothing more than warehouse the homeless. The plan now is to try to get people in permanent homes and thus mitigate the need for more shelters.
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Old 04-30-2022, 10:17 AM
 
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This is not just about the City "caving in", but also changing its stance about building tons of shelters that do nothing more than warehouse the homeless. The plan now is to try to get people in permanent homes and thus mitigate the need for more shelters.

Homeless shelters - at taxpayer expense, or placing the homeless in permanent homes - at taxpayer expense. Same thing in many ways. Both destabilize middle-class neighborhoods. NYC can't keep spending billions on the underclass while at the same time punishing the middle-class. NYC can't print money. We may already be at the point where 40% of New Yorkers support the other 60% in one way or another.
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Old 04-30-2022, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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good. move all that sh** to Rikers Island
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Old 04-30-2022, 01:11 PM
 
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good. move all that sh** to Rikers Island
And the methadone clinics too!
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Old 04-30-2022, 03:24 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Homeless shelters - at taxpayer expense, or placing the homeless in permanent homes - at taxpayer expense. Same thing in many ways. Both destabilize middle-class neighborhoods. NYC can't keep spending billions on the underclass while at the same time punishing the middle-class. NYC can't print money. We may already be at the point where 40% of New Yorkers support the other 60% in one way or another.
I agree, but warehousing homeless people has been proven to be MUCH MUCH more costly. It is much cheaper to house those people. The City has tried shipping the homeless out of town similar to what Bloomberg did back in the day to places like Yonkers and Westchester said we don't want your homeless here, so there aren't too many options. What really should happen is that the AMI should be changed, as it includes areas outside of NYC and wealthy ones at that in Westchester, which inflates what is considered to be affordable housing. In my area, they have "affordable" one bedrooms starting at around $2100-2200/month and up, and I live in a more suburban area of the City outside of Manhattan. Not exactly cheap...
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Old 04-30-2022, 04:03 PM
 
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I agree, but warehousing homeless people has been proven to be MUCH MUCH more costly. It is much cheaper to house those people. The City has tried shipping the homeless out of town similar to what Bloomberg did back in the day to places like Yonkers and Westchester said we don't want your homeless here, so there aren't too many options. What really should happen is that the AMI should be changed, as it includes areas outside of NYC and wealthy ones at that in Westchester, which inflates what is considered to be affordable housing. In my area, they have "affordable" one bedrooms starting at around $2100-2200/month and up, and I live in a more suburban area of the City outside of Manhattan. Not exactly cheap...

It's about the disruption, violence and crime being imported into NYC's middle-class neighborhoods by the homeless as much as it's about draining the NYC tax base. How much is NYC supposed to do for it's underclass while abusing it's middle-class neighborhoods?
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Old 05-01-2022, 05:23 AM
 
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I agree, but warehousing homeless people has been proven to be MUCH MUCH more costly. It is much cheaper to house those people. The City has tried shipping the homeless out of town similar to what Bloomberg did back in the day to places like Yonkers and Westchester said we don't want your homeless here, so there aren't too many options. What really should happen is that the AMI should be changed, as it includes areas outside of NYC and wealthy ones at that in Westchester, which inflates what is considered to be affordable housing. In my area, they have "affordable" one bedrooms starting at around $2100-2200/month and up, and I live in a more suburban area of the City outside of Manhattan. Not exactly cheap...
So the city (with essentially unlimited pockets) will act as a market participant in an already greatly constrained and expensive housing market. Utterly brilliant.
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