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"Di'annishia'ante, get up that ladder and rescue the lady in the burning room!"
*sucks teeth, "I thought I TOLD you, I jus had my nails done and I'm not about to break them climbing no ladder and that lady is panicking and she liable to rip my weave out and I ain't havin' it."
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Originally Posted by Mr.Retired
Our hero Firemen and Policemen deserve the greatest respect.
To be fair ,The Finest and the Bravest are adjectives that can be passed on to many
private sector jobs that have never gotten the credit they deserve.
For the sake of everything that is good I hope this diversity bill measures the size of a man's errrr..........but I'll call it heart for the sake of inclusion.
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Originally Posted by Dave 92 LSC
Fire doesn't discriminate. It takes lives no matter what.
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Originally Posted by Honda718
Diversity good, White man bad.
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Originally Posted by Dave 92 LSC
Because historically, diversity makes everything better, not white man.
What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. They want the cushy, do nothing jobs too and I don’t blame them. That’s how societies degrade. Everyone wants to get in on the fraud. Why aren’t they going after roofing jobs because there are too many Mexicans represented? When upwards of 90% of FDNY calls are for car accidents, the department should have been downsized years ago like Bloomberg wanted because they realized what was happening even 20 years ago.
“Diversity” drives are and have always been about getting the “good jobs” (aka the pay/benefits aren’t commensurate with the work). Have you ever seen diversity drives for plumbers, lumberjacks, or open sea fisherman? Jobs that aren’t “too good to be true” don’t have diversity drives because there’s no benefit even if they pay well.
They want the cushy, do nothing jobs too. FDNY should have been scaled back years ago when 90% of their job became responding to car accidents.
Cushy, huh? I hope the when your car flips over or if you're in a fire that the diversity hire who is 5ft 5 and bench presses 100pds is the one in charge of "saving' you. lol.
I know many, many fire fighters. The FDNY has been dumbing down the written test for years so certain folks can pass it. Also the same with the physical for women. I really have no problem that in a city like NYC which is majority minority, that there is a certain degree of representation however when you start putting people's lives at risk to get that representation, that's too dangerous.
Serious question for ya'll people of "color" out there. Do you really not mind when institutions, city government and private companies clearly lower their historical standards in order for you to "get the job?" I know it's about money and puttin food on da table, but cmon. I'd be embarrassed. Just saying.
Anyways, DEI will be the downfall of America. Not in my lifetime, but certainly in 50 years or so when Asia is running the planet as a homogeneous society, putting forth their best and brightest.
Cushy, huh? I hope the when your car flips over or if you're in a fire that the diversity hire who is 5ft 5 and bench presses 100pds is the one in charge of "saving' you. lol.
Your scenario is irrelevant. It would b almost impossible to prove in these aorta or edge cases.
This wouldn't be an issue if the department wasn't seriously overstaffed. They're coming after precisely because they see easy, well paying jobs. That's what it's all about.
I know many, many fire fighters. The FDNY has been dumbing down the written test for years so certain folks can pass it. Also the same with the physical for women. I really have no problem that in a city like NYC which is majority minority, that there is a certain degree of representation however when you start putting people's lives at risk to get that representation, that's too dangerous.
Serious question for ya'll people of "color" out there. Do you really not mind when institutions, city government and private companies clearly lower their historical standards in order for you to "get the job?" I know it's about money and puttin food on da table, but cmon. I'd be embarrassed. Just saying.
Anyways, DEI will be the downfall of America. Not in my lifetime, but certainly in 50 years or so when Asia is running the planet as a homogeneous society, putting forth their best and brightest.
If the department has been dumbing down the test for years and has had lowers standards for the physical then there should be plenty of evidence how this has translated into worse service for NYC residents.
Do you see what I'm getting at?
They're coming after the FDNY because theret are plenty of slots that they can "diversify" without having a material impact on operations.
If the department has been dumbing down the test for years and has had lowers standards for the physical then there should be plenty of evidence how this has translated into worse service for NYC residents.
Do you see what I'm getting at?
They're coming after the FDNY because theret are plenty of slots that they can "diversify" without having a material impact on operations.
The FDNY has tried to make it easier for black men/women to score the bare minimums on tests. They just can't do it. You don't see a decline in current services because the majority of workers are still those that were able to meet basic requirements. But what's going to happen now is that the city will lower again or just entirely eliminate min test requirements to get to that desired diversity. That's when we'll see the problems in real life when it's time to think quick on your feet and problem solve in real time making life or death decisions. Some folk just don't have it in them.
It's also happening with law schools. They're now eliminating the LSAT all together as part of admissions into certain law schools. Why? Cause the hood just has a problem with reading and writing and speaking the Queen's English. Real talk.
The FDNY has tried to make it easier for black men/women to score the bare minimums on tests. They just can't do it. You don't see a decline in current services because the majority of workers are still those that were able to meet basic requirements. But what's going to happen now is that the city will lower again or just entirely eliminate min test requirements to get to that desired diversity. That's when we'll see the problems in real life when it's time to think quick on your feet and problem solve in real time making life or death decisions. Some folk just don't have it in them.
It's also happening with law schools. They're now eliminating the LSAT all together as part of admissions into certain law schools. Why? Cause the hood just has a problem with reading and writing and speaking the Queen's English. Real talk.
By 2027 the FDNY (and NYPD) will be intentionally weakened organizations. Thugs frequently overpower small weak diversity-hire cops as it is. Wait till the FDNY has entire engine companies of post-2022 diversity hires. Sleeping through fire alarms at the firehouse, slowly boarding the firetruck because they 'don't like being rushed'. LOL but it's really not funny at all.
The FDNY has tried to make it easier for black men/women to score the bare minimums on tests. They just can't do it. You don't see a decline in current services because the majority of workers are still those that were able to meet basic requirements. But what's going to happen now is that the city will lower again or just entirely eliminate min test requirements to get to that desired diversity. That's when we'll see the problems in real life when it's time to think quick on your feet and problem solve in real time making life or death decisions. Some folk just don't have it in them.
It's also happening with law schools. They're now eliminating the LSAT all together as part of admissions into certain law schools. Why? Cause the hood just has a problem with reading and writing and speaking the Queen's English. Real talk.
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Originally Posted by dfc99
By 2027 the FDNY (and NYPD) will be intentionally weakened organizations. Thugs frequently overpower small weak diversity-hire cops as it is. Wait till the FDNY has entire engine companies of post-2022 diversity hires. Sleeping through fire alarms at the firehouse, slowly boarding the firetruck because they 'don't like being rushed'. LOL but it's really not funny at all.
Both are skirting the point.
Is the FDNY over-staffed with regard to what FIREfighters basic job description is? Yes or No?
It doesn’t take the same caliber of firefighter to respond to car accidents and drug addicts than it does to fight fires. The politician clowns in this city know this and this are trying to “diversify” the cushy jobs to their own.
You don’t see them trying to diversify roofing, open sea fishing, etc. because there’s nothing to be had with diversifying hard jobs (even if they pay well). Diversity has ALWAYS been about the cushy jobs. Always.
Can’t cry when your main argument is “keep the cushy jobs to one group only” even when that one group is better “qualified” for the job (but rarely employs that skill set).
If I remember correctly educational level for Sanitation once preferred 2 yrs of college.
Looking into recently I found now it's High School/GED at appointment .
10% have associates........................I would have dropped out of school years ago if I knew the city was heading in this direction.............( Sarcasm )
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