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Old 12-26-2022, 06:36 AM
 
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I seem to recall the winters being more wintery as a kid in the 70’s.
By the late 80’s/early 90’s is when I noticed them mellowing out overall.
We still have our moments, like now, but overall I feel like the winters are getting milder.
OTH, and maybe it’s just me, I feel like the rest of the year is becoming more wild. Seems like more tropical-ish storms hitting the metro area/Schlong Island. More frequent gustier winds, more heavy rain events, I think we hit a record for tornado activity recently. IDK.
I don’t remember widespread flooding as a kid either. Yeah certain areas were more prone, but is seems like almost anywhere is fair game to flooding these days. Maybe I’m just more observant as an old codger and things haven’t changed that much?
Either way, I don’t blame cow farts and pick up trucks.
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Old 12-26-2022, 07:39 AM
 
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2nd week of January and February we have snow chances
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Old 12-26-2022, 07:53 AM
 
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Buffalo would like to have a chat with you.
Sure there's colder places.

But, it was 75 degrees in San Diego yesterday.
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Old 12-26-2022, 09:32 AM
 
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New York City winters aren't really wintry
I agree, but we still get a week or two that are truly ABOMINABLE. May we dare hope we have had them already.

Next week should be much milder.
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Old 12-26-2022, 09:35 AM
 
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I agree, but we still get a week or two that are truly ABOMINABLE. May we dare hope we have had them already.
More like 3-4 weeks. The last 2 weeks of Jan and first two of February are usually the window for that period.

We already got a week like that in December!
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Old 12-26-2022, 12:11 PM
 
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I seem to recall the winters being more wintery as a kid in the 70’s.
By the late 80’s/early 90’s is when I noticed them mellowing out overall.
We still have our moments, like now, but overall I feel like the winters are getting milder.
OTH, and maybe it’s just me, I feel like the rest of the year is becoming more wild. Seems like more tropical-ish storms hitting the metro area/Schlong Island. More frequent gustier winds, more heavy rain events, I think we hit a record for tornado activity recently. IDK.
I don’t remember widespread flooding as a kid either. Yeah certain areas were more prone, but is seems like almost anywhere is fair game to flooding these days. Maybe I’m just more observant as an old codger and things haven’t changed that much?
Either way, I don’t blame cow farts and pick up trucks.
Cows are farting more, no question.

We already got a week like that in December![/quote]
Even during the "old days" of the 1960's and late 1970's (the early 1970's with the exception of 1969-70 and 1970-1 were actually quite mild), we usually only had episodes of serious winter. The legendary winter of 1960-1 was bad in the second week of December, the last two weeks of January and the first week of February. Other than that it was mild-to-torchy.
  1. 1966-7 was overall brutal but even that featured a balmy January, and frigid and snowy February and March.
  2. 1967-8 got unseasonably cold in late November, freezing the lakes just enough for me to fall through rather seriously December 2. January was frigid, even subzero, but February was normal to balmy.
  3. 1968-9 featured a minor snowstorm in early December and a notorious one, the Mayor Lindsay, on February 9 or so.
  4. 1969-70 featured a notably cold last two weeks of December and most of January, and an Easter snowstorm. Other than that it was pretty normal.
  5. 1970-1 was similar temperature-wise to the preceding year, and both managed a late-December snowstorm.
  6. 1971-2, 1972-3, 1974-5 and 1975-6 were disgustingly mild, with a few cold breaks in 1972-3 and a cold January 1976. 1972-3 was also a record, un-snowy winter, despite October flakes. 1973-4 was a bit more wintry but nothing special.
  7. 1976-7 was legendarily cold in December-January, as was February 1979. 1977-8 was extremely snowy, not that cold.
Even during the 1980s, 1981-2 was famously cold in December and January. February 1983 featured the Megalopolis Blizzard. 1983-4, 1984-5, 1985-6, 1986-7, 1987-8, and 1988-9 were relatively featureless, despite some obligatory cold weather and flakes. December 1989 was one of the coldest months on record but otherwise, that winter was not memorable, though I did meet my wife. We constantly disagree whether the 36° on our first date, January 6, was a "warm" night. I say it was, particularly after that December.

As far as the later winters being "mellow", 1993-4 had legendary cold, down to 0°. 1995-6 had record snowfall, over 75" in Central Park, and a fair number of single-digit readings. 2002-3, 2003-4, 2004-5, 2008-9 2009-10, 2010-11, 2014-5, and 2015-6 all featured extremes of cold, snow or both.

It is easy for people's memory to play tricks on them.
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Old 12-26-2022, 12:48 PM
 
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I remember one year, probably back in the '90s where in a 12 month period we had a low below 0 and a high above 100.

And I went to school in Syracuse. As bad as that was (and I remember one night that was -14), we all said at least we weren't in Buffalo.

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NYC is certainly cold enough today. I remember only one day colder...In the 1970's it was 6 degrees in Greenwich Village one evening.


I wouldn't take a house in Buffalo FOR FREE.
Just astronomically / climatically (meaning give how much solar energy hits NYC at any give time), January should be worse. But atmospheric conditions can swing that wildly. I would not bet that the last few days have been the worst nyc see all winter, especially since they didn't contain any accumulating snow. We haven't had a good two footer in a while.

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I agree, but we still get a week or two that are truly ABOMINABLE. May we dare hope we have had them already.

Next week should be much milder.
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Old 12-26-2022, 12:53 PM
 
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I remember one year, probably back in the '90s where in a 12 month period we had a low below 0 and a high above 100.

And I went to school in Syracuse. As bad as that was (and I remember one night that was -14), we all said at least we weren't in Buffalo.
You are probably remembering 1993 or 1994. Central Park didn't quite hit 100° in 1994, but almost did, and hit 100° three times in 1993. January and February 1994 had temperatures at or just above zero, respectively in Central Park. The other possibility was 1995 where we went over 100° in July and were around 0° in December 1995 and January, 1996. I did not look this up so I could be wrong.
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Old 12-26-2022, 08:04 PM
 
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It seems like it rains a lot in NYC instead of snow, and they have lots of temps in the 40s as well. Furthermore, it rarely gets below 0F. Even Chicago is expected to reach like -6F most years, and I would say Chicago only gets cold two months of the year.
Are you complaining that New York City winters aren't really wintry? You could always move to Buffalo.
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Old 12-26-2022, 09:53 PM
 
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Sounds about right.

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You are probably remembering 1993 or 1994. Central Park didn't quite hit 100° in 1994, but almost did, and hit 100° three times in 1993. January and February 1994 had temperatures at or just above zero, respectively in Central Park. The other possibility was 1995 where we went over 100° in July and were around 0° in December 1995 and January, 1996. I did not look this up so I could be wrong.
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