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Old 03-11-2023, 04:07 PM
 
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Makes sense. Focus on brand new cars but do nothing about Crime or Grimeyness of stations that are falling apart all over the city. Call me crazy but I think people would prefer fresh looking and clean stations with older train cars.
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Old 03-11-2023, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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Makes sense. Focus on brand new cars but do nothing about Crime or Grimeyness of stations that are falling apart all over the city. Call me crazy but I think people would prefer fresh looking and clean stations with older train cars.
you guys complain about everything.

First its the old trains

now that new trains are provided now its people prefer better stations.

in reality the MTA has been working on fixing all of these things the past few years.

Yall expect everything to happen in one day.
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Old 03-12-2023, 07:42 AM
 
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As slow as the MTA is at upgrading the signals which is much more important than clean stations.. we need the new cars in order to work with the new signals that are being installed on Queens Blvd, 6th Avenue, 8th Avenue and Culver.. So the new cars are needed for all you people who complain so much about the MTA..

I'm glad they're finally at the end of their testing and can't wait for them to replace all R46 cars and hopefully the R68s in the future.
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Old 03-12-2023, 09:14 AM
 
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you guys complain about everything.

First its the old trains

now that new trains are provided now its people prefer better stations.

in reality the MTA has been working on fixing all of these things the past few years.

Yall expect everything to happen in one day.
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As slow as the MTA is at upgrading the signals which is much more important than clean stations.. we need the new cars in order to work with the new signals that are being installed on Queens Blvd, 6th Avenue, 8th Avenue and Culver.. So the new cars are needed for all you people who complain so much about the MTA..

I'm glad they're finally at the end of their testing and can't wait for them to replace all R46 cars and hopefully the R68s in the future.
MTA employees or have family that work for the MTA.

Do either of you want to put down $5K that this will improve delays in any meaningful manner? The MTA has been working on signals for a decade now.

The MTA is a cesspool of corruption and inefficiency.
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Old 03-12-2023, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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I wanna get on one.. I'm intrigued
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Old 03-12-2023, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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What about 6, Z, J trains ?
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Old 03-12-2023, 01:06 PM
 
Location: NY
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Unbelievable,
Weren't the last new A trains tracked around 2010.

If they were American made they wouldn't have been swapped out until they turned 50 years old.


On another note : They are beautiful.
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Old 03-12-2023, 03:24 PM
 
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If you eat up the bull**** that the MTA peddles. If you really believe that is a prime contributor to delays, then you're part of the circus.
It's not a prime contributor, but it certainly IS a contributor. The R46 was produced during the Ford and Carter years. There's absolutely no reason for them to stay around any longer, so yeah, I do support spending money on new rolling stock. The MTA needs a serious audit and cost cutting - but this isn't where costs should be cut (I firmly believe there needs to be a reduced headcount - why are we still having 2 person train crews in the 21st century??)
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Old 03-12-2023, 03:28 PM
 
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Unbelievable,
Weren't the last new A trains tracked around 2010.

If they were American made they wouldn't have been swapped out until they turned 50 years old.


On another note : They are beautiful.
Everything you said is wrong. The (A) line hasn't received any new trains in decades, not counting 2019 when it got a small handful of Bombardier-built R179s (only about 20% of the total fleet).

The R46 models due to be retired were 100% American made in Chicago by the Pullman Standard Company in 1975-1978. And indeed, they are on the precipice of turning 50 years old, which, by the way, is well beyond the expected rail service life of 40 years.

The R211 model order is mostly produced in Lincoln, Nebraska, albeit by an American branch of the Japanese multinational Kawasaki, Inc. There are no American train manufacturers in existence anymore due to the globalism of the Reagan-through-Obama presidencies.
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Old 03-12-2023, 03:36 PM
 
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you guys complain about everything.

First its the old trains

now that new trains are provided now its people prefer better stations.

in reality the MTA has been working on fixing all of these things the past few years.

Yall expect everything to happen in one day.
Personally, I don't care about stations that much. I don't sit on the benches, I merely wait for the train which I'd rather be clean and reliable than the station which solely exists to board and exit the actual train.
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