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All y’all pretending that you don’t know how permit parking works? That’s rich lol. It has been standard in most urban neighborhoods for 30-40 years.
Who doesn’t know how it works? And who says it’s only been in urban neighborhoods? I know plenty of suburban towns here in NJ that has done this for a long time too but that doesn’t mean it is the right thing to do for NYC.
Thanks for stating the obvious. I know that in San Francisco and Chicago it's pretty typical., especially in very dense neighborhoods. Most of the "resident only" parking permits are for overnight parking, not daytime parking. So when neighborhood residents come home from work and need a spot to park they don't have to spend 30 minutes finding one. May be an inconvenience for some visitors, but a really boon to the folks who live there. And the neighborhoods that require these permits are often relatively affluent where car ownership isn't uncommon and there are few garage options.
They really need to show proof that residential permits really free up space. I doubt those “very dense neighborhoods” are suddenly going to have lots of space open up because of permits. Are there really that many people that don’t live there but decide to park there for fun?
Yeah, no kidding. I tried in this thread but I'm done.
Of course you’re done. Your argument about Long Islanders driving thru traffic just to park in Queens to get on a subway got blown up into bits and pieces.
Of course you’re done. Your argument about Long Islanders driving thru traffic just to park in Queens to get on a subway got blown up into bits and pieces.
OMG is this an act?
I used Long Island as an example. They could be driving from anywhere, including a part of Queens that doesn't have LIRR or subway access.
I don’t feel like researching it and it has probably been mentioned in this thread before, but I suspect that parking is becoming more of an issue because historically car ownership in the city has been very low. That seems to be changing, pretty significantly. If permit parking didn’t exist in the past, it’s probably because it wasn’t needed.
I first learned the ins and outs of permit street parking when I moved to Richmond VA for college wayyyy back in 1987.
The official reasoning is almost always a lie. What’s happening is that tax revenue is projected to flat-line or decline over the next 5 years but the politicians in charge have staked their power in an ever expanding welfare state (aka spend more money this year than last). The state and city are desperate to find sources of revenue apart from raising income
Taxes because that game is over.
OMG is this an act?
I used Long Island as an example. They could be driving from anywhere, including a part of Queens that doesn't have LIRR or subway access.
Also maybe they don't want to pay for LIRR.
Who knows, All I know is I'm right.
So now you are changing your tune because LI was shot down. Now let me work on shooting your new claims down next.
The parts of Queens that do not have subway or LIRR access have plenty of areas all around them that do. Most people in these areas would just take the bus and transfer to the subway hence terminal stations like Flushing and Jamaica are so busy with bus riders.
Furthermore, even accounting for those who drive to the subway, this would only affect the streets immediately around those subway/LIRR stations in the very eastern part of Queens and not the rest of Queens.
I don’t feel like researching it and it has probably been mentioned in this thread before, but I suspect that parking is becoming more of an issue because historically car ownership in the city has been very low. That seems to be changing, pretty significantly. If permit parking didn’t exist in the past, it’s probably because it wasn’t needed.
I first learned the ins and outs of permit street parking when I moved to Richmond VA for college wayyyy back in 1987.
This is more plausible and further backs my belief that many of the cars are owned by the people living there.
So now you are changing your tune because LI was shot down. Now let me work on shooting your new claims down next.
The parts of Queens that do not have subway or LIRR access have plenty of areas all around them that do. Most people in these areas would just take the bus and transfer to the subway hence terminal stations like Flushing and Jamaica are so busy with bus riders.
Furthermore, even accounting for those who drive to the subway, this would only affect the streets immediately around those subway/LIRR stations in the very eastern part of Queens and not the rest of Queens.
LIC has no parking because there are well paying jobs there (influx of workers) and plenty of commercial zones. It's not people driving in from LI to take the train to the city.
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