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Old 04-17-2023, 03:26 AM
 
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Ok, he was already out on bail for attempted murder, you think this person said to themselves, hey apparently its easier to get away with it, so he went ahead to kill 2 more people, and then on top of that, got caught? That's merely speculation. The truth is you or nobody else knows what motivated him to continue. And the speculation invites fear-mongering. It's the slow down to watch the car wreck phenomenon, that's another reason why the people least affected by NYC crime read all the crime stories.

And the bolded is why bail reform exists, you can't make it more financially convenient to commit crimes. Two commit the same crime, but one gets to go home because his bank account is fatter? Thats the point of bail reform.

speculation invites fear-mongering.
When you don't know something you fear it until you understand it.
Apparently no one has learned to understand it.
I know enough not to go into a dense forest an night without a gun.
for fear of being eaten by bears or wolves.
No gun ? Chances are greater I'll become a victim.

Since I can't walk around parts of this crazy city without a gun
it appears that rather than taking my chance of becoming a victim
avoiding the arena of the unknown is the only logical solution.


No bail. period !
An appropriate answer to this unfairness until this nonsense is sorted out.

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Old 04-17-2023, 06:35 AM
 
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Yep. These are the same people who probably support the disarming of law abiding citizens and these insane bail reform laws. Sorry to see people get assaulted, but you reap what you sow.

In today's world, I refuse to be a good Samaritan in a city/state that is hellbent on catering to the criminal crowd while leaving the law abiding defenseless.
all excellent points
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Old 04-17-2023, 06:37 AM
 
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speculation invites fear-mongering.
When you don't know something you fear it until you understand it.
Apparently no one has learned to understand it.
I know enough not to go into a dense forest an night without a gun.
for fear of being eaten by bears or wolves.
No gun ? Chances are greater I'll become a victim.

Since I can't walk around parts of this crazy city without a gun
it appears that rather than taking my chance of becoming a victim
avoiding the arena of the unknown is the only logical solution.


No bail. period !
An appropriate answer to this unfairness until this nonsense is sorted out.
So everybody that goes camping at night in forests takes guns with them? To piggyback off your metaphor.
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Old 04-17-2023, 07:51 AM
 
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So everybody that goes camping at night in forests takes guns with them? To piggyback off your metaphor.
Ideally yes.
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Old 04-17-2023, 10:05 AM
 
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The government is basically getting out of the business of public safety protection. The actual crimes that the government only goes after are those with income that they can extract and levy fines against. Anyone without any assets, they don't care if they are a menace to society because there's no free lunch in jail anymore.
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Old 04-17-2023, 10:08 AM
 
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Ideally yes.
Ideally? Lol ok.
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Old 04-17-2023, 10:27 AM
 
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Funny how all the hate crimes seem to happen in the bluest cities that were suppose to be really tolerant.

And here we are being told by Biden and the Democrats that the people we need to fear are right wingers in red states but you almost never hear about hate crimes in those places.



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn_tJvJ0ass
Funny how the "mental giant" conservatives can't put two and two together. The location has little to do with the crime versus the people present who could have come from anywhere given Times Square's accessibility and statement provoking status as the heart of NYC. Jethro and Cletus have zero barrier to entry from rural NY or NJ where believe it or not isn't all blue. Hate crimes bv nature happen in blue cities where the victims tend to reside, there's nothing "funny" or odd about it. And hate crimes do happen in red states where they tend to go unreported given police department ambivalence and a local culture more prone to shaming the victim. There's a societal equivalence to rape and rape victims, read up utilizing non-politicized sources.
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Old 04-17-2023, 01:36 PM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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Funny how the "mental giant" conservatives can't put two and two together. The location has little to do with the crime versus the people present who could have come from anywhere given Times Square's accessibility and statement provoking status as the heart of NYC. Jethro and Cletus have zero barrier to entry from rural NY or NJ where believe it or not isn't all blue. Hate crimes bv nature happen in blue cities where the victims tend to reside, there's nothing "funny" or odd about it. And hate crimes do happen in red states where they tend to go unreported given police department ambivalence and a local culture more prone to shaming the victim. There's a societal equivalence to rape and rape victims, read up utilizing non-politicized sources.
So now it’s rural folks coming to Times Square to attack gay people. You liberals certainly have imagination. I am certain even you don’t believe the BS you just thought up. Watch the video, the attacker is black and almost certainly from the city, not Oneonta NY.

Also funny how you claim that in blue cities, there’s a good chance that it is conservatives doing the hate crimes but then you go on to say that hate crimes can happen in red areas but leave out the part where liberals can go there too. Even in red areas, there are liberals.

Clearly you have not ever left your liberal bubble because if you have you would know that folks in red rural areas are actually very friendly and have a live and let live attitude versus the so called big city liberals who are intolerant of opposing ideas/thoughts. Who are the ones always angry and protesting and rioting?

BTW, it is well known that blacks are particularly homophobic and anti-Semitic, meaning they are responsible for most of the attacks on those two groups. They also vote overwhelmingly Democrat.
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Old 04-22-2023, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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red states but you almost never hear about hate crimes in those places.

The operative word is HEAR

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Old 04-22-2023, 10:23 AM
 
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It is 2023 in NYC. almost all crime stats are skyrocketing. LGBT groups have various privileges nowadays but no crime immunity (yet), very disappointed. If I were gay walking with my partner in Times Square, I would not hold hands in broad daylight in 2023 to avoid being targeted. While many people are conditioned to accept being gay as one of many life styles and choices, there are still many who refuse to accept it so it is wise to keep a low gay profile while in public.
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