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Old 02-05-2024, 12:39 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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If ever the world acts out and excludes Israel and starts a Holocaust 2.0, I'd argue the same thing: Why should Israelis, Jews and other people who have nothing to do with Netanyahu's genocide have to suffer a collective punishment? People need to punish those who literally committed the crime and no others. I don't care about, "OMG this is a war!" It's not a war when a people who have the significant disadvantage of no army, marine corps, air force or navy have to "fight" a war that has absolutely nothing to do with them.
So David Berkowitz, Jared Lochner, Ethan Crumbley, Dylann Roofe, and numerous others are at war with the U.S. Since they have "no army, marine corps, air force or navy ... to "fight" a war" They should be allowed to do what they do? Ethan Crumbley is the best example; is punishing his parents "collective punishment"?
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Old 02-05-2024, 12:40 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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If I were the PM of Israel what I would’ve done was get my Mossad and special forces together. I would’ve then asked the US and other NATO countries to also get their special forces together for help. We would investigate who’s behind the attacks, how it was funded and would’ve conducted a military operation as careful as a surgical procedure. The world would’ve emphasized with my country and most likely would’ve cheered us on.
In other words spend years investigating while nothing happens?
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Old 02-05-2024, 03:17 PM
 
Location: western NY
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In other words spend years investigating while nothing happens?
Oh, I think something would happen, all right, but it wouldn't be pleasant for the Israelis.
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Old 02-05-2024, 03:31 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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So David Berkowitz, Jared Lochner, Ethan Crumbley, Dylann Roofe, and numerous others are at war with the U.S. Since they have "no army, marine corps, air force or navy ... to "fight" a war" They should be allowed to do what they do? Ethan Crumbley is the best example; is punishing his parents "collective punishment"?
The people you've named have all been punished for their heinous crimes. Ethan Crumbley was under the direct care of his parents. His parents were charged with manslaughter because they've failed to secure the handguns that he used to commit murder. I think it's appropriate. However, Ethan Crumbley's cousins, coworkers, previous dates, his children - if he had any - shouldn't pay for his crimes.
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Old 02-05-2024, 03:35 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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In other words spend years investigating while nothing happens?
What exactly do you want to happen? So far, I haven't seen one Hamas person arrested or even declared dead. I don't see how you think bombing an entire country can get rid of Hamas. In fact, it's created a group of resistance fighters - the Houthis. And I'm 100% sure, others will sprout up. It's natural. Just like the Polish resistant fighters back at the Warsaw Ghetto. Why ever would anyone think that the Nazi's burning down that ghetto would prevent the Jewish people of the time from organizing more resistance groups?? It's completely ridiculous.
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Old 02-05-2024, 04:42 PM
 
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The you haven't been paying attention. The IDF as been elimination Hamas fighters wholesale. Israel is claiming they've killed 8,500 Hamas Soldiers.

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What exactly do you want to happen? So far, I haven't seen one Hamas person arrested or even declared dead. I don't see how you think bombing an entire country can get rid of Hamas. In fact, it's created a group of resistance fighters - the Houthis. And I'm 100% sure, others will sprout up. It's natural. Just like the Polish resistant fighters back at the Warsaw Ghetto. Why ever would anyone think that the Nazi's burning down that ghetto would prevent the Jewish people of the time from organizing more resistance groups?? It's completely ridiculous.
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Old 02-06-2024, 05:31 AM
 
Location: western NY
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The you haven't been paying attention. The IDF has been eliminating Hamas fighters wholesale. Israel is claiming they've killed 8,500 Hamas Soldiers.
Indeed.
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Old 02-06-2024, 08:15 PM
 
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A million defenseless palestinines trapped in Rafah as the fully armed IDF readies to conduct a next wave of genocide in broad daylight under international watch…

Congratulations, Netanyahu and IDF supporters, you are not only winning the war with unarmed civilians but also the title of the most brutal state-run armed forces in slaughtering civilians in the 21st century….

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/06/middl...ntl/index.html

It is also saddening that young Americans are watching this going on without voicing their sympathy for the Palestinian people , fearing the retaliation from the Jewish money in the US.
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Old 02-07-2024, 05:09 AM
 
Location: western NY
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a million defenseless palestinines trapped in rafah as the fully armed idf readies to conduct a next wave of genocide in broad daylight under international watch…

congratulations, netanyahu and idf supporters, you are not only winning the war with unarmed civilians but also the title of the most brutal state-run armed forces in slaughtering civilians in the 21st century….

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/06/middl...ntl/index.html

it is also saddening that young americans are watching this going on without voicing their sympathy for the palestinian people , fearing the retaliation from the jewish money in the us.
Huh????
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Old 02-07-2024, 05:10 AM
 
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A million defenseless palestinines trapped in Rafah as the fully armed IDF readies to conduct a next wave of genocide in broad daylight under international watch…

Congratulations, Netanyahu and IDF supporters, you are not only winning the war with unarmed civilians but also the title of the most brutal state-run armed forces in slaughtering civilians in the 21st century….

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/06/middl...ntl/index.html

It is also saddening that young Americans are watching this going on without voicing their sympathy for the Palestinian people , fearing the retaliation from the Jewish money in the US.
Why is this particular war so important. There were plenty of other flare ups all over the world that went on un noticed
Let that region handle its own problems.
Casualties if war always includes civilians.
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