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Old 10-26-2008, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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Possibly similar in that the projects here are government owned.

Though I don't know a whole lot about the requirements for Council housing, IF indeed they are primarily for people that have no job and live on benefits or have poor income, I would say that in this respect they are quite different from NYCHA.

Here in New York, Projects are for low AND middle income, which means a family of four qualifies if they make under $61,450 a year

More than 50%, in fact an overwhelming majority DO have a job. In fact, working families are given a priority code called the "Working Family Preference". They are often given priority over those who don't work, especially since Mayor Bloomberg eliminated the separate "homeless" preference. Now Homeless are primarily referred to the Housing Choice Voucher Program (Section 8).

As well, IF a member of the household is not a student, employed, or disabled, they are REQUIRED by law to perform community service.


Also note, in America, it is almost impossible to "not work and live off of benefits" And illegal immigrants do NOT qualify for benefits.

Common unknown facts on American "Welfare" which is now called "Temporary Assistance for Needy Families" or also known as "Public Assistance".

Since President Clinton signed the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act of 1996... The following changes were implemented.

In America, you cannot LIVE off of benefits as there is a Lifetime 60 months federal limits (TIME LIMIT) on benefits (5 years), once you have used those 60 months, there is NO Welfare for you for the REST of your life, even if STARVING, you don't get a single cent. (A few states have implemented emergency alternatives around this, I believe about 5 or 6 states)

Most Americans don't know that Welfare Recipients PAY THEIR OWN benefits, NOT taxpayers! Welfare recipients are required to work off their "checks" and mandatory minimum wage job assignments, their only "pay" IS their welfare check.

Most Americans Also do not know, that if for any reason a Welfare recipient receives more benefits than their mandatory government assigned minimum wage job, then their Earned Income Tax Credit AND ALL Tax refunds are CONFISCATED and taken by the government to pay for any benefits they may have received that past year.

Welfare Recipients ALSO have their Child Support Checks CONFISCATED (except for a $50 monthly pass through payment) to cover any balance of "benefits" they may have received.

The government also CONFISCATES any Welfare balance from future judgments, winnings, etc that year.

Welfare recipients must ALSO sign that they WILL pay back ALL benefits received within that year should they have the possibility of doing so.

The American Welfare program is ONLY "Welfare" for the disabled (Which MOST people do not qualify, EVEN terminally ill) But i you ARE Disabled for a long term, you are simply removed from Welfare and transferred to "SSI" (Permanent Disability)

For the rest, Welfare is ONLY a temporary NON-Interest LOAN and Job Search Program / Guaranteed part-time LOW Paid Employment. But, work is Absolutely Compulsory. Benefits MUST be returned to the Government!

Hope this helps clear up that residents of public housing are not permitted by the U.S. government to simply "not work" and "live off a check"
I have to quote this again -- great post.
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Old 02-18-2015, 01:59 AM
 
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Thanks for the info. It seems similar to council houses that we have over here for people who have no job and live on benefits or have a poor income.
Please ignore the inaccurate, ill informed, ignorant, prejudiced statement about council housing, presumably written by someone who reads the vile hate filled English tabloid called the Daily Mail.
Council housing was a response the slum conditions prevalent in many UK cities, and especially to the bombing of inner cities in the second world war, which actually cleared some of the worst and most insanitary slums. Council housing in the UK gave many people the opportunity to live in well built houses, and the dignity of indoor baths and toilets which many did not previously have, at reasonable rents. Families were housed according to need, they were usually for working class people and were most certainly not ghettoes to place out of work people as stated above.
Since Margaret Thatcher made councils sell off their publicly owned housing stock ex-council houses especially in London are well regarded by property experts and buyers for being well constructed, roomy and many with excellent communal gardens.
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Old 02-18-2015, 06:52 AM
 
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Thanks for the info. It seems similar to council houses that we have over here for people who have no job and live on benefits or have a poor income.
I thought they called them "estates" over there?
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Old 02-18-2015, 08:37 AM
 
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"Estates" is just what some of the council housing "projects" are called, just like some NYCHA properties are called X X Houses.

Public housing in most countries were built and designed for working class families. Over time they have had increase in tenants who are dependent on assistance but the concept has always been to provide a comfortable living situation at a reasonable rate.
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Old 02-18-2015, 08:44 AM
 
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The projects is a brilliant scheme thought up by Progressive liberals to create a perpetual underclass voting base that will have no motivation for upward ability, therefore guaranteeing a constant government dependent voting base.
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Old 02-18-2015, 11:26 AM
 
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The projects is a brilliant scheme thought up by Progressive liberals to create a perpetual underclass voting base that will have no motivation for upward ability, therefore guaranteeing a constant government dependent voting base.
That's bull.....the way you tell it, you think the whole projects goes to the poll. haha.
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Old 02-18-2015, 12:03 PM
 
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That's bull.....the way you tell it, you think the whole projects goes to the poll. haha.
I think he might be haunted by all the rectal exams he gave to people from the projects during his residency. Had a friend that became a doctor and he talked about the crap that he went through literally lol
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