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Old 10-30-2008, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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i was just kidding with you, it was a joke, take a deep breath
Sorry.

Let me bow out this thread, it gets me too riled up.

Sorry again, Rudbeckia.
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Old 10-30-2008, 05:39 PM
 
Location: bronx - north
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.....I just think that guys should sometimes give their seat up for women. Not always, just sometimes, depending on the situation...........Not many men left are gentlemen. Seems to be a thing of the past.
I just think "ladies" should be ladies and just let the guys get the higher salary for performing the same "duties". Not many "ladies" left.... seems to be a thing of the past
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Old 10-30-2008, 05:58 PM
 
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lol no offense, but why should you be honored?

So I should dishonor myself, just to honor you?

I think I am the ****.....but nobody honors me. Unless you are related to God, I am assuming that you are a normal person like the rest of us.

If a woman wants to get my seat, she has to do something for me. I wont say it on here but ....
Honoring another person does not mean that you have to dishonor yourself in anyway. It's not a zero sum situation. It just means that you are giving the other person special consideration or respect.

Yes, I am a normal person and certainly don't expect a man to give me a seat. But if he does, then I feel honored because he has given me respect above the ordinary. I appreciate his self-sacrifice in making my day more pleasant.

Courtesy and manners are just ways that we show consideration and respect to others, and attempt to make our interactions with one another pleasant.

If you treat others discourteously, you shouldn't be surprised to get the same treatment in return. It's just karma.

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Old 10-30-2008, 06:13 PM
 
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Honoring another person does not mean that you have to dishonor yourself in anyway. It's not a zero sum situation. It just means that you are giving the other person special consideration or respect.

Yes, I am a normal person and certainly don't expect a man to give me a seat. But if he does, then I feel honored because he has given me respect above the ordinary. I appreciate his self-sacrifice in making my day more pleasant.

Courtesy and manners are just ways that we show consideration and respect to others, and attempt to make their our interactions with one another pleasant.

If you treat others discourteously, you shouldn't be surprised to get the same treatment in return. It's just karma.
I guess, Marie, as another poster pointed out, all women aren't the same on this issue, and I'd add that quite evidently all men aren't the same. But I do belive that with bmw, other male posters and me aboard, there's enough courtesy to serve the wonderful ladies out there including yourself!

And you are right on target with your post above.
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Old 10-30-2008, 06:19 PM
 
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I guess, Marie, as another poster pointed out, all women aren't the same on this issue, and I'd add that quite evidently all men aren't the same. But I do belive that with bmw, other male posters and me aboard, there's enough courtesy to serve the wonderful ladies out there including yourself!

And you are right on target with your post above.
Thank you, Miles. You're always a gentleman.
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Old 10-30-2008, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Concrete jungle where dreams are made of.
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I just think "ladies" should be ladies and just let the guys get the higher salary for performing the same "duties". Not many "ladies" left.... seems to be a thing of the past

Newsflash: Many women nowadays are making just as much, if not more than men. Real ladies don't use men for their money, appreciate a guy for what he does for her (even the smallest things), are content with just spending a quiet night home with him instead of dining out at the fanciest restaurant in town. There aren't many ladies like that left anymore, and yes, it is a shame.
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Old 10-30-2008, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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If us men honor you women by giving you our seats, will you women honor us men by giving us your phone numbers?
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Old 10-30-2008, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Queens
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Honoring another person does not mean that you have to dishonor yourself in anyway. It's not a zero sum situation. It just means that you are giving the other person special consideration or respect.

Yes, I am a normal person and certainly don't expect a man to give me a seat. But if he does, then I feel honored because he has given me respect above the ordinary. I appreciate his self-sacrifice in making my day more pleasant.

Courtesy and manners are just ways that we show consideration and respect to others, and attempt to make our interactions with one another pleasant.

If you treat others discourteously, you shouldn't be surprised to get the same treatment in return. It's just karma.
It's not discourteous for a man to not give up his seat!!!!!!!

Marie, how often do you give up your seat to a young man who is just standing there? Maybe he looks tired, but he's not disabled, and he's not old. Do you do this often????? Somehow I highly doubt it; therefore, why should a MAN do this just because it's a WOMAN STANDING.
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Old 10-30-2008, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Queens
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Newsflash: Many women nowadays are making just as much, if not more than men. Real ladies don't use men for their money, appreciate a guy for what he does for her (even the smallest things), are content with just spending a quiet night home with him instead of dining out at the fanciest restaurant in town. There aren't many ladies like that left anymore, and yes, it is a shame.
He was being sarcastic (I think). I think he might have been saying how women want EQUAL RIGHTS, yet change their minds with things like this. A man needs to do this for a woman...but aren't we equals?? Do you do the same thing to men?
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Old 10-30-2008, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Queens
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If us men honor you women by giving you our seats, will you women honor us men by giving us your phone numbers?

LOL NOPE. And this is why I do not take drinks from men at bars. They expect something back!
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