167th on B D and 4 subway line OK area? (apartment, condos)

[fridaly]

Hi, I was wondering if this is a relatively safe area. I realize it's not the greatest of course. I will hopefully be living there soon, just found myself an apartment. Well if it helps I'm a 26 yr old female, appear to be white but I'm Hispanic. I would be arriving from work at midnight so that's mainly my concern. Any info would be great. thanks in advance.

[cotb16]

Of course, that area is pretty rough. To me, it is worse coming home at midnight during the warmer months as teenagers hang out in front of buildings or in the hallways and either blast music and/or cause trouble.

[A_Better_Bronx_2morrow]

Originally Posted by fridaly

Hi, I was wondering if this is a relatively safe area. I realize it's not the greatest of course. I will hopefully be living there soon, just found myself an apartment. Well if it helps I'm a 26 yr old female, appear to be white but I'm Hispanic. I would be arriving from work at midnight so that's mainly my concern. Any info would be great. thanks in advance.

The area is OK. Alot of teenagers like to hang out but won't bother or harrass you. They are just being childish and have nothing better to do. Don't let that deter you from moving in. We need nice classy working people like yourself to move into the Bronx to help change the negative image its gotten for decades.

The neighborhood itself has gotten better due to the gentrification sparked by the new Yankee Stadium. I would definately stick around for a few years as it is an UP and COMING neighborhood that is slowly getting better. Give it a chance.

[jackson92186]

The neighborhood itself has gotten better due to the gentrification sparked by the new Yankee Stadium.

what are you talking about? First off, the stadium contributes nothing to new people or businesses moving in. You could argue that it decreased the quality of life by taking away park land. And there are no new businesses. Period. Certainly none that you would see associated with gentrification.

167 is my stop. cotb16 assessment was right, but if you've lived in the ghetto before i wouldn't worry about it. 167 is not the best strip, but you probably wont get robbed if you don't look like you have lots of money, which you probably do not if you are living there.

[Stac2007]

I ride them all the time when I sub at schools like Taft and Wade, Bronx Writing and a few others. Never had a problem.

[A_Better_Bronx_2morrow]

Originally Posted by jackson92186

what are you talking about? First off, the stadium contributes nothing to new people or businesses moving in. You could argue that it decreased the quality of life by taking away park land. And there are no new businesses. Period. Certainly none that you would see associated with gentrification.

167 is my stop. cotb16 assessment was right, but if you've lived in the ghetto before i wouldn't worry about it. 167 is not the best strip, but you probably wont get robbed if you don't look like you have lots of money, which you probably do not if you are living there.

You don't understand the definition of gentrification by your comment.

And I stand by what I said because the new stadium HAS sparked positive change in the neighborhood with massive infastructure developments, new coops and condos going up and being sold to folks that WILL NOT contribute to the decay of the community as the previous residents did. You may see very minimal change right now but I GUARANTEE you in a few more years, WATCH the positive change thats about to occur in that area and in the whole Bronx. The revenue alone that goes to the Bronx from the new stadium is enough to address many issues that Bronx has. Look at the big picture.

Oh yeah..once the old stadium is tore down, it is going to became NEW park land for kids to play. That was part of the deal.

[fridaly]

thanks for the info. I mean I understand it's not a great area and it's not like I plan to hang out there anyway, but as long as it's not highly likely that i'll be held at gunpoint when I'm coming home from work then it's all good. I can put on my mean face

[jackson92186]

u'll be good. Speak spanish? U'll get mad props from the community if so.

The revenue alone that goes to the Bronx from the new stadium is enough to address many issues that Bronx has.

What are you talking about? there will be fewer people able to come to new games, all the restaurants will be located inside of the venue, and they get tax breaks... all the revenue generated by the stadium goes straight to the owners of the Yankee's. If anything, there is less revenue going to back to the community for the reasons I just mentioned. And new condos? What new condos are you talking about? And most of the people who do live here today do care about the neighborhood a lot, in fact. Most people here are upstanding citizens, so I don't know what you mean by "continue the decay of the community." This is not a decaying community. A poor one, yes. But not decaying by any means. There are no decaying buildings in this neighborhood at all-all of them are being used. If they really cared about the neighborhood, they would do something about the school overcrowding, which sends a big message about how much this city values education, and that rubs off on the success of students, too.

[cotb16]

Anyway, before this topic becomes another Yankee Stadium-type forum, the 167th St/Concourse area was once solidly Black/Puerto Rican back in the 1990s. Lately, many of the Blacks and Puerto Ricans are moving to the North and East Bronx as well as other places. Taking their place are Dominicans coming from Upper Manhattan and further west in the Bronx as well as Mexicans and those from West Africa.

[DoubleXAs]

Originally Posted by cotb16

Anyway, before this topic becomes another Yankee Stadium-type forum, the 167th St/Concourse area was once solidly Black/Puerto Rican back in the 1990s. Lately, many of the Blacks and Puerto Ricans are moving to the North and East Bronx as well as other places. Taking their place are Dominicans coming from Upper Manhattan and further west in the Bronx as well as Mexicans and those from West Africa.

What would you say is the dominant group in the area nowadays? I seen alot of Dominicans on Jerome and west of it. Which is the case from 161st to Moshulo Pkwy. But around the Concourse is it still the same?

The area is bad. Those kids who you think do nothing are what we call stick up kids. They rob and rob and rob at knife point. I know a couple of people who got robbed by those same kids who do "nothing". Mod cut: racist remarks